Technical GT Brakes & 13" Wheels?

[fatty]

Will the GT brake upgrade squeeze under standard 13" sporting wheels or no way not a chance ever ever? They're only 17mm bigger so I thought they might just squeeze in.

No harm in asking.....

 

[J333EVO]

No.

 

[fatty]

Thats how I like an answer simple and to the point!!

 

[fingers99]

Lol!

He's right, not a hope in hell. On the 14s I have on my Sei clearance is so tight you take off a bit of paint from the calipers each time you remove/replace a wheel. Sorry!

 

[GoBe]

As J333EVO said no chance with the PGT callipers. However I've got to finish sorting out willwood Midilite callipers clamping onto UT discs, this should be delivering similar results to the PGT set up in terms of performance.

 

[fatty]

Hmmm How bout Uno Turbo brakes? They any better than standard stuff?

Very interested in the Willwood Midlite set up keep me informed!

 

[fingers99]

People certainly say the UT brakes are an improvement. But why not go to 14? The other good reason is much better/cheaper tyre choice, especially if you go to 6J.

 

[fatty]

Its a clart on buying spacers, bolts and tyres to go to 14's. I was gunna swap the tyres on my 13's to 175/50 Yoko's and it saves the hassle.

 

[jamie86]

As i've said before and most UT owners will agree...

UT brakes are sh!te

 

[fingers99]

If you can get hold of some with 35et, then it's just 3mm at the back (or nothing if you've got disks) 8-10 at the front, and £35 or less for a stud conversion. No need to use hubcentrics, just stock sporting front spacers at the rear, decent aftermarket ones at the front. Then fit Uniroyals in 195/45/14 at about £35 a corner and (late, for preference) GT calipers with Alfa 155 disks (about £40 a pair).

It'll be easier and better than the UT conversion, and you'll have so much grip.

 

[fatty]

Hmmm I thought the ET was higher than that on tempra wheels? I'll certainly look into it.

 

[fingers99]

Hmmm I thought the ET was higher than that on tempra wheels? I'll certainly look into it.

Could well be. But why Tempra wheels?

 

[allanhelen]

I keeps the stock look i use them on the NA cinq

For Tempra alloys 20mm spacers up front and 10mm on the rear (ideally 12mm would make it the correct offset but you can get scrubbing on the outside of the arch) then 185/50 Conti-sports as they are 5.5j

 

[GoBe]

As i've said before and most UT owners will agree...

UT brakes are sh!te

There's nothing wrong with 240mm discs if you use the right callipers, which is why I'm planning to use willwood 4 pot callipers with pads that are marginally bigger than late PGT pads .

 

[fingers99]

There's nothing wrong with 240mm discs if you use the right callipers, which is why I'm planning to use willwood 4 pot callipers with pads that are marginally bigger than late PGT pads .

I'm sure they'll be fine, but the expense! And surely the swept area (rather than the area of the pads) will be smaller?

 

[custard]

There's nothing wrong with 240mm discs if you use the right callipers, which is why I'm planning to use willwood 4 pot callipers with pads that are marginally bigger than late PGT pads .

are wilwoods sealed nowadays?
years ago i had them on a R5 GTT and winter was a nightmare for sticking/seized calipers

 

[rallycinq]

Willwoods are a competition caliper that require more frequent maintenance than a stock set up.

UT brakes are superb, with the right material, and the right master cylinder.

Cheers

D

 

[fatty]

.......UT brakes are superb, with the right material, and the right master cylinder.

Cheers

D

What is the right maerial and master cylinder???

 

[GoBe]

Custard, depends on the callipers the ones I'm going to be using aren't my first choice (they're bigger and heaver than I was really wanting which could apparently squeeze 257mm discs under 13" rims ) but come in a 'low maintenance road specification' version which are sealed.

Fingers, yeah the swept area is smaller but with pistons available should deliver as good or better braking power, I may need to change the master cylinder but that won't be much of a problem at all.

 

[Smiler121]

UT brakes are superb, with the right material, and the right master cylinder.

I've found I'm spot on with stock master cylinder using Black Diamond 240mm drilled & grooved (ventilated) discs under reconditioned UT fronts. Wonder what it'll be like when I fit my Punto GT 240mm solid rears.