FiaSco - The FS Project Car

[M21MFS]

So...next weekend. Yellow needs a bit of tlc.

From memory we still need to:

Fix water leak (water pump seal?)
Get engine running 100% - hopefully just a bit more idling and or replacing that oil pressure sensor
Wire in o/s headlight
Free handbrake
Finish painting the underside
refit o/s light and indicator
refit front bumper

Think thats everything left on the list but Ransoman or lewisp may be able to add to that.

 

[lkc]

We also pulled plugs off so make sure we put them back on correct order lol

Also its not just a drop in transplant a lot has been done to it so it may be its feature to run a little lumpy lol

P75 with spi head
Stainless manifold
866 cams
Ecu upgrade chip

As you say with the clutch we did want to re align it as it may be off slightly

And yup it had
New plugs
New ht leads
New oil
New filter
New clutch
New timing belt kit
New head gasket
New radiator
New valves
New rocker cover seal
New cam seal
New cat
New front pads and discs
New steering motor
New heater matrix
Nw map sensor
New oil switch
New radiator switch

This is what I remember sitting at work btw lol

From the above list the rear suspension and brakes weren't replaced. They're probably fine but if there's time it might be an idea to with replace them with the new parts that have been fitted to FiaSco simply because there's no point in leaving brand new on a car that might not be moving again until the new year

 

[imported_abyss113]

Nah the inside the drums werent to bad and worked fine when the levers were freed up

 

[mrcinquecento]

From the above list the rear suspension and brakes weren't replaced. They're probably fine but if there's time it might be an idea to with replace them with the new parts that have been fitted to FiaSco simply because there's no point in leaving brand new on a car that might not be moving again until the new year

i think everything on Yellow is servicable, but if there's any doubt, good the parts are there if needed at least

As for the lumpyness, i still say it needs run, because last time we ran it, it started lumpy and settled.

It's still missing an air filter i see from pics, again, that will make a difference, especially as ecu is in learning mode! it's learning all the wrong things, bad parenting :laugh:

 

[M21MFS]

Air filter from fiasco was renewed and fitted to yellow on saturday so thats one less thing lol

 

[Lewis P Abz]

No point in taking spings off fiasco as we know they are the wrong ones remember!

Im going to ain to re rout the wiring into better positioning on saturday. I would like to concintrate my effords of electrical jobs. If i cant spell hydrulic (hydraulic) then ill stick to wires hahah!!!!!!!!

 

[M21MFS]

Dont think the electrics need much work. Lights and some rerouting. Thats the hope anyway lol

 

[lkc]

No point in taking spings off fiasco as we know they are the wrong ones remember!

How could I ever forget :laugh:

Actually I meant the shocks rather than the springs as I seem to remember a pair of yellow springs in the boot of Yellow which I assumed were functional. However with my lack of mechanical knowledge I'm happy to be corrected

But we did pretty much replace the rear brakes on FiaSco and if the ones on Yellow look like they belong to an older car and it's a quick job then let's change them. My thinking is why put 100 % working parts on a car that isn't going to move for a good few months when it can go on a car that could potentially cover several 100 miles in the next few months.

As ever though let me know if my thinking is wrong

 

[M21MFS]

I guess the rear brake swap is on the list..all just depends on time really!!

 

[bad_boy_cinq]

Dont bother going to disks ,, SOme one on FF Put punto Rear drums on , means a bigger drums , and a better handbrake for massive skids

 

[lkc]

A quick update while Martyn and Lewis are out shopping for parts and hopefully food as well

Quite a bit of progress has been made today. Yellow now has a sidelight bulb again

And the water pump for the screenwash has also been replaced with the one from FiaSco. The ecu has been retrained after letting the engine run for 30 minutes and sounds much better. We may also have traced the leak that we found last week and radweld is on the shopping list to sort that out.

Still to be done today is fix leak, swap back brakes over and look at the spark plugs and ht leads. we have a diagram for this so hopefully it should be straightforward... Famous last words I know [attachment=1:1daa8l3k]eusa_doh.gif[/attachment:1daa8l3k]

As for FiaSco, she is getting completely stripped out. The ecu and stupid moo horn have been disconnected and the perspex window removed as it was rotten

The door cards have been removed and the washer pump nicked for Yellow

That's it for now as the boys have just texted to say they're back. I hope they brought me food

 

[mrcinquecento]

where is the leak?

Radweld?

Don't do it! These engines run pretty hot anyway, it's why the cooling system needs maintained fairly well and why so many that don't get maintained suffer from HG failures. Last thing you want to be doing is chucking that stuff into the system IMO.

 

[lkc]

Too late - it's in and in my car too as I'm still losing coolant.

Anyway moving on....

Food had been forgotten so it was a case of if you want something done do it yourself. Sure enough

And then back to work. On the list was fixing the broken horn

Turns out it wasn't broken after all and there was an electrical problem. Actually it was sitting too close to the hot exhaust apparently and has now been moved.

The leak has been fixed, the handbrake has been fixed, headlights are back on Yellow in working order

and FiaSco is looking very sorry looking

back brakes aren't done as other things got in the way but we do have a working bonnet catch again. Other work was also completed but I'll let someone else finish today's story

 

[mrcinquecento]

Am i going to need to go into angry lecture mode about the evils of Radweld on one of these engines?

It is not a fix, it is a temporary/emergency bodge. Not only that, it's clogging up/narrowing water ways which is the last thing you want a hot running engine that is generally fairly marginal on cooling anyway to have. It does more harm than good.

 

[lkc]

Am i going to need to go into angry lecture mode about the evils of Radweld on one of these engines?

It is not a fix, it is a temporary/emergency bodge. Not only that, it's clogging up/narrowing water ways which is the last thing you want a hot running engine that is generally fairly marginal on cooling anyway to have. It does more harm than good.

Yep, I'm afraid you are. Unfortunately what I know about engines can be written on a very small post-it note in size 24 font therefore I'm relying on others. I'd never even heard of radweld before today.

Actually a list of fixes that are actually bodges (if that makes sense) would make an interesting lecture/technical advice topic

 

[mrcinquecento]

All i can say positive is "At least pretty much everything cooling wise in it is clear and new, so maybe it won't be that bad".

If you consider it all like a human heart, the waterways being arteries, rad weld is like fat that clogs them up. It doesn't just "find and plug" the gap, it sludges the whole system. Now a lot of the time that isn't all that bad. Centos however because the engine does run hot, the cooling system is vital. Poorly maintained ones cause Head gaskets to go pop. They are pretty marginal on cooling. In that scenario the last thing i'd be putting in is anything to sludge up the waterways.

Not only that, it doesn't fix the problem really, so not only does it mean running a much higher risk of damage, it means the problem still needs fixed as well as whatever damage the radweld has done and even if not, it still all needs flushed out again and cleared, which takes a hell of a long time and messy effort.

Basically, it turns a problem that could cost a maximum of £15-20 and one hour to fix properly into potentially many more issues and much more £ and time.

 

[Stuart]

Unfortunatly I have to agree with Mark. But as I wasnt there at the time and wasnt part of the decision making process at that point, i will keep shtum

 

[M21MFS]

Poop. Gotta be honest I didnt think it would be a bad idea when suggested.

Ill do more of an update later on.

 

[imported_abyss113]

what happend to the radiator as said its BRAND NEW and there should be nothing wrong with it unless you cracked it when you hit the ledge in which case i probably would have drained it hoped it cracked plastic and the slapped a mountain of Epoxy resin 600oC on it or buy another which cost 30 anyway

 

[M21MFS]

Radiator seemed fine? Water leak was from around the water pump but seems to have stopped now.

Fair play, with hindsight it would have maybe been a better idea to not have used radweld but there's not much we can do about that now, except hope.

The last 48 hours have been nackering, but rewarding. The underside of Yellow was given a quick coat of hammerite on Friday night, an early start today with a fair bit more stripping back of FiaSco to act as a temporary parts donor to Yellow. Fiasco has now been relieved of the rear window, as mentioned earlier, along with various pieces of the engine bay and most of the interior. As I've said before, we need this stripped back to a bare shell so to quote the Manics "Everything must go"

Yellow saw quite a bit of attention again today. Engine wiring re-routed where need be, sidelight wired up and the lights reconnected, handbrake adjusted/freed. At one point I was pretty damned hopeful that we'd get her running and complete, but as normal we've discovered a couple of potential issues.
Ransoman identified a loud knocking fron the front of the car when we first test drove which we need to investigate further.While we were checking for issues today lewisp identified a couple of things that might need attention/replacing. CV boot on the n/s and anti roll bar bushes were mentioned. Again, not having the full list of work to hand I'm not sure if this is the case or if it's just stuff to keep an eye on.

So yeah, all in a really productive day at the lock up. I'm not mechanically minded, but really am starting to pick up. Removed the shocks and a few bits off of FiaSco and - with a bit of guidance - gave the rear brakes a good shot. We're hopeful of getting a small band of us in for a bit of work this week, as next weekend will be a break from the projects. Unfortunately, my plan to take Yellow to Alford at the start of October is looking a tad doubtful. Still, we can see the progress now.