FiaSco - The FS Project Car

[mrcinquecento]

sounds an adventure :laugh:

The sei as i told you we had a wee bit of issue starting before a few times after it had been left ages, once it fires it runs brilliantly. reckon it's something as simple as an earth tbh

 

[M21MFS]

Fingers crossed! Hopefully it wont' take too long to find and fix the problem!

 

[lkc]

arse!

 

[mrcinquecento]

there's only a handlful of things it can be really first think i'd check is the earth on the coil pack itself, then on the gearbox if that's ok.

 

[imported_abyss113]

yeah no spark at all in the coils so it would have to be the earth id say as we just put those coils on remember mark it did have that stupid ticking relay again though to start with which was a groudn to start with )

 

[mrcinquecento]

Defo a ground then, random relay ticking means haywire electrics. Coils are fine, we've had it running in the past with zero issue but have had a ground issue

 

[bad_boy_cinq]

TDC sensor... i havnt read the problem , just seen that ^^ mentioned no spark , so check the tdc sensor

 

[imported_abyss113]

i did include a spare in the boot aswell of the sensor but iirc it will have to be wired in as no connector for the one on it

 

[clock34]

check the earth just behind the coils on the head. commonly forgoton and wont work without it.

i bought a seicento with this detached. guy said it was buggered, just screwed it on and drove away

 

[imported_abyss113]

i had a look at the ground but as you say maybe need to recheck it take it off sand it again and put it back see what happens

 

[imported_abyss113]

early congrats are in order

 

[lkc]

Yellow has had its 1st accident under FS ownership

 

[bad_boy_cinq]

go on?

 

[M21MFS]

Ground oot on some concrete. Alls well though full update after Stuartys bbq

 

[lkc]

So Yellow has been revived after a prolonged period of inactivity and becomes the second FS car. I swear the cento's are breeding in that shed

First of all thanks to Ransoman and lewisp for their help today

There are a few problems to resolve (including a dented sump but more of that later ) but it's so clean none of us can bring ourselves to break it so the plan of it as a donor car for FiaSco has gone by the wayside for now. FiaSco will continue and we'll find a more worthy donor from somewhere but in the meantime the plan is to fix Yellow and sticker it up to advertise the site. We'll get a better idea of how much more work it needs to get through its MOT next weekend.

As for the accident...

Once Yellow was going again the boys naturally had to a) try it out and b) run it for a decent amount of time as it'd been inactive for so long.

I should set the scene for those who've not been to the shed. FiaSco and Yellow are stored in an old farm byre which is part of an extensive maze of old disused farm buildings, pot-holed roads and scary speed bumps. Top gear would have a field day in this place testing 4x4s and wrecking caravans.

The car was thoroughly put through it's paces slaloming between speed bumps and bouncing over potholes. Martyn well and truly got into the Top Gear spirit and tried to take it through one of the old sheds not noticing there was a concrete ledge until I yelled and we heard a sickening bump. Sure enough Yellow was grounded and had to be pushed off. It still goes so all is well but yeah... interesting times

 

[M21MFS]

So, today's progress was quite impressive.

We arrived on site at around 2pm, a little later than hoped but it took Daryl a little while to get the truck through town traffic. With Yellow now parked up next to FiaSco, we set about investigating the reasons for no spark.

Andrew and Lewis played about with the spark plugs, re-tracing abyss's steps last night simply to confirm there was no spark. A bit of rubbing down on the earthing points made no difference. Chasing cables to look for any slightly loose connections made no difference. To be sure the engine was indeed receiving petrol, we checked the filter and lines. The filter and pump were definately sending petrol towards the front of the car. So, back to wiring.

A bit of note comparing between yellow and FiaSco took place. Yes, they're two different engines but there's not a huge amount of difference.

It really did seem that we'd be leaving the lock up, again, with that feeling of dissapointment. But eventually a bit of fettling with some earthing seemed to spark life into yellow. At this point, I'd love to remember exactly what wiring it was that needed a slight nudge, but it's been a long couple of days. I'm sure lewisp or Ransoman will remember.

Today was interesting in that we started robbing bits off of FiaSco to try and get Yellow running. I suspect this might be a familiar pattern, now that we're going to have to pretty much strip FiaSco back to bare metal. In the short term, it might be easier to get Yellow through an MOT and then down to m5haw for a bit of vinyl. Realistically there's maybe a couple of hours work, adjusting the clutch cable and generally finishing off the work that Mark and Daz pretty much completed.

Yellow runs, and for a car that hasn't moved in ages runs fairly well. I suspect an HT lead or plug needs changing, as the idling sounds a little off. I had hoped to attach a vid, but I'll do that tomorrow. Next weekend we're going to try and get the engine & clutch running 100% and then take things from there. Reassembly of the front of the new addition looks most likely at this stage, so we can get some form of FS publicity out on the road over the next few months.

 

[mrcinquecento]

The idling is off because it has been sitting for so long with no power, the ecu needs to re-learn its parameters. Plus it has no induction setup on, so it's getting an amount of air above what the parameters should be even if the ecu had adapted.

Just leve it running for a bit and it will sort itself out and run a lot smoother

 

[M21MFS]

The idling is off because it has been sitting for so long with no power, the ecu needs to re-learn its parameters. Plus it has no induction setup on, so it's getting an amount of air above what the parameters should be even if the ecu had adapted.

Just leve it running for a bit and it will sort itself out and run a lot smoother

No doubt, we actually robbed the battery out of FiaSco to give the new arrival a chance of power. It worked, so we'll let her run for a good half hour or so next weekend to see what difference that makes. I'm almost wondering if it'd be worth changing the plugs and oil simply with the car having sat for so long??

 

[mrcinquecento]

Plugs should be fine, Though the cars fueling will be all over the shop for a wee while which isn't good for the plugs, but even still should be ok.

What i'd say is if you're set on changing the plugs, run the car a bit until idling smooths itself down etc, then change the plugs no point changing the plugs then it overfuelling and sooting up the new ones too!, but even still, i'd not bother changing them. It's had new senors everywhere and a new cat iirc, so emissions shouldn't be an issue.

Oil, it's up to you. as said it's sat ages so good practice the oil that was put in was fresh upon install, so the cars covered about 1 mile on it, which was mostly me test driving it around the lockup compound, so it's not like it's old oil that's covered tens of thousands of miles then been left to sit, it's all fresh and clean

 

[imported_abyss113]

We also pulled plugs off so make sure we put them back on correct order lol

Also its not just a drop in transplant a lot has been done to it so it may be its feature to run a little lumpy lol

P75 with spi head
Stainless manifold
866 cams
Ecu upgrade chip

As you say with the clutch we did want to re align it as it may be off slightly

And yup it had
New plugs
New ht leads
New oil
New filter
New clutch
New timing belt kit
New head gasket
New radiator
New valves
New rocker cover seal
New cam seal
New cat
New front pads and discs
New steering motor
New heater matrix
Nw map sensor
New oil switch
New radiator switch

This is what I remember sitting at work btw lol