Technical eLearn all Fiats including Ducato Euro 6

[Reg 65]

My apologies if this has been posted before and I have missed it?
Clicking this link
I can see eLearn manual for apparently all Fiats including Ducato X2/95 Euro 6

 

[the green vanper]

No, it has not been posted here.

F***k it looks like a non prod environment to me

If someone needs something, just go and copy before some *** in Stellantis finds out and takes it off the web.

Best X-mas and New Year gift. Thanks!!!

 

[nikosgrk]

No, it has not been posted here.

F***k it looks like a non prod environment to me

If someone needs something, just go and copy before some *** in Stellantis finds out and takes it off the web.

Best X-mas and New Year gift. Thanks!!!

IMAGES DO NOT WORK..... Why?

https://lab-aftersales.fiat.com/elearn_testreda/main.aspx?nodeID=250015520&languageID=2&markID=5&modelID=250000003&valID=250000009&prodID=99&modelName=Professional%20-%20290/295%20-%20Ducato%20FL%202014&langDesc=English&sectionName=Impianto%20Elettrico&validityName=2.3%20JTD%20E6

 

[the green vanper]

Non prod, it doesn't have to be fully functionnal.

Get the 'functionnal description', it's a written wiring diagram

 

[the green vanper]

In strange browsers (like Edge or Chrome) it downloads a file in .image format. I have no idea what it shall be opened with.

 

[nikosgrk]

yes uknown .image file extension

 

[the green vanper]

The file in it contents has this line:

<igf id="adobe_illustrator_pgf">

I don't have the Adobe Illustrator to check if it will work.

 

[the green vanper]

Definitely Adobe Illustrator:

<!-- Generator: Adobe Illustrator 11.0, SVG Export Plug-In . SVG Version: 6.0.0 Build 78)

 

[the green vanper]

Hahaha hacked

Change the file extension to .svg and open it with Microsoft Edge:

 

[nikosgrk]

Yes correct!!!!

 

[the green vanper]

The files can also be opened in the open source Inkscape:

Inkscape - Draw Freely. | Inkscape

Inkscape is professional vector graphics software which runs on Linux, Mac OS X and Windows desktop computers.

inkscape.org

If you want to maintain the vector properties (so it can scale without loss of quality), you can convert the SVG to EMF (Enhanced Metafile), which is compatible with Word.

Using Inkscape (Free Software) for Conversion:​

1. Open the SVG file in Inkscape.
2. Go to File > Save As.
3. In the Save as type dropdown, choose EMF (Enhanced Metafile).
4. Save the file.
5. Insert the EMF file into Word:
   • Open your Word document.
   • Click Insert > Pictures > This Device.
   • Select the EMF file to insert it into your document.

 

[AnthonyH]

I downloaded a program that has ePER for a punto, so it can be viewed offline. I can't remember if i got it on this website or another, but everything that is in the ePER linked from this website was on the program. I've since deleted that program, I just don't need an offline version of it.

 

[the green vanper]

I downloaded a program that has ePER for a punto, so it can be viewed offline. I can't remember if i got it on this website or another, but everything that is in the ePER linked from this website was on the program. I've since deleted that program, I just don't need an offline version of it.

This is the eLearn module, not ePER. Those are 2 different things.

The eLearn modules were available for ages at the dealership as CDs. Somewhere until 2012, 2014? Then FIAT moved it to the www. Access is restricted to professionnals. And for a fee.

Some of the eLearn CDs can be downloaded from this or other forums.

This discovery contains newer data - for the Ducato probably until 2018. Have not checked other cars yet

And yes, there are programs like Autodata that contains several information. But again, not for every (for example rare) models / variants.

 

[theoneandonly]

what model is the 2017 twin egr euro 6 2.3?

 

[the green vanper]

what model is the 2017 twin egr euro 6 2.3?

It is marked as x290/295 on the website. If that's what are you asking for

 

[theoneandonly]

It is marked as x290/295 on the website. If that's what are you asking for

Note quite options include

I'm assuming the early one is 2.3 jtd E6 though i got confushed when you drill down i can be E6 full.
@Fredastaire this may interest you.

 

[theoneandonly]

Have had a little play, the DTC area could be quite usefull, with links to test methods. just an example page. just hope this remains available @ben can you get this hosted.

 

[RS3100]

This appears to be an internal test site that has leaked and for some reason already opens with the user logged in. lab-aftersales.fiat com/elearn_testrada/ (elearn-testsite) in the web address are clues. Some PDF files that are linked to are missing on attempts to open them, some of the links are empty, and at least one I have looked at doesn't include links to other preliminary operations that are necessary before accessing the operation referred to, which is normally the case. Nevertheless, there's plenty of interest.

I suspect it will get locked down if Fiat become aware. I remember something similar happening with software updates a few years ago, when the portal became publicly accessible.

Of course, if someone wants to have a go at creating an eLearn CD out of it whilst they can...

 

[Wiltshire Chris]

This appears to be an internal test site that has leaked and for some reason already opens with the user logged in. lab-aftersales.fiat com/elearn_testrada/ (elearn-testsite) in the web address are clues. Some PDF files that are linked to are missing on attempts to open them, some of the links are empty, and at least one I have looked at doesn't include links to other preliminary operations that are necessary before accessing the operation referred to, which is normally the case. Nevertheless, there's plenty of interest.

I suspect it will get locked down if Fiat become aware. I remember something similar happening with software updates a few years ago, when the portal became publicly accessible.

Of course, if someone wants to have a go at creating an eLearn CD out of it whilst they can...

You're right I'm sure someone will spot it is 'open' and shut it soon. I did take the opportunity to grab all the PDFs for the Barchetta service manual while I could. Sadly some of the bits we need to (easily) recreate an eLearn CD are still hidden and, as you say, some of the links are dead. I have had some attempts at creating our own openLearn version from the CD rips we have on our site but that's still in a rough state and only covers earlier vehicles as later information was encrypted and hasn't yet yielded to my attempts to decrypt it - and that's leaving aside the legality of the whole enterprise!
Having said that, thanks to @Reg 65 for the link, a great find!

 

[RS3100]

I have had some attempts at creating our own openLearn version from the CD rips we have on our site but that's still in a rough state and only covers earlier vehicles as later information was encrypted and hasn't yet yielded to my attempts to decrypt it - and that's leaving aside the legality of the whole enterprise!

I used to have (legitimately) an X290 eLearn on a USB stick which was also encrypted and I think somehow the encryption was tied to the USB hardware. I made a backup of it, just in case, but although an exact backup of the data it wouldn't open at all. Needless to say after a while the data stick became corrupted and although Fiat guaranteed a replacement if that should happen, by the time it had happened they had withdrawn the facility to obtain eLearn manuals on physical media so wouldn't replace it. Even restoring the backup to the USB stick after repairing the corruption wouldn't work.