Technical EBD Failure

[TangerineTractor]

Morning all. Another day in Stiloland!

Driving along the motorway, strady 70 on cruise control, everything fine, all of a sudden the ABD and Brake lights light up, and the display says "EBD Failure - Stop Engine"... naturally I'm not going to do this on the motorway,so I dabbed the brakes to check they worked ok and continued on to work. When I got here, I stopped the engine and restarted, and it was all fine, no faults.
So is this just an electrical glitch, or am I waiting for it to light up again on the drive home?

 

[StiloBoy]

Happens..... I've had it a couple of times in my Stilo. Goes away with an engine off/on. Although when its happened to me its been very soon after starting engine.

 

[TangerineTractor]

Didn't do it on the way home, so fingers crossed...

 

[Shadeyman]

You need to read the fault codes in the ABS ECU.

They will give you a much better idea why it failed.

 

[TangerineTractor]

Did it again this morning, almost exactly the same time and place

So I guess the first thing is to read the ABS ECU - so I need an ELM327 cable I assume? MY KKL only reads the engine...

Or do I try cleaning the ABS sensors and connections? And if so, where are they, how do I get to them and how do I check them?

 

[Shadeyman]

Did it again this morning, almost exactly the same time and place

So I guess the first thing is to read the ABS ECU - so I need an ELM327 cable I assume? MY KKL only reads the engine...

Or do I try cleaning the ABS sensors and connections? And if so, where are they, how do I get to them and how do I check them?

Your KKL will read the ABS ECU if you use one of the FES adapters.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIATECUSCAN-DIAGNOSTIC-ADAPTOR-SET-SRS-ABS-CAN-LEADS-/360384288479

Using a set of FES adapters you should be able to read the following ECU's:
1. Engine
2. ABS
3. Airbag
4. Steering(I think)

 

[TangerineTractor]

So I can't do it with a straight ELM327 cable?
When I connect my KKL it says I need ELM 327 for the service reset... that item you've linked to says it works with the ELM or KKL depending on the vehicle.

 

[Shadeyman]

I think service reset is ELM only but I have ELM and KKL so I'll try it for you with no adapters, give me 10 min and I'll post again.

 

[Shadeyman]

Service reset is deffinately ELM only on a Stilo(see the attached screen shot).

Yes the adapters work with KKL and ELM, just depends what ECU's you want to connect to, some ECU's require an ELM to connect to them, some ECU's require a KKL to connect to them.

 

[TangerineTractor]

So do I need just an ELM to connect to the ABS, or the adaptors with my KKL, or ELM and adaptors?

 

[Shadeyman]

Already posted the answers to that.

You need an ELM interface for Service rest(no adapters, I think).

Service reset is deffinately ELM only on a Stilo(see the attached screen shot).

Yes the adapters work with KKL and ELM, just depends what ECU's you want to connect to, some ECU's require an ELM to connect to them, some ECU's require a KKL to connect to them.

You can connect to ABS using your KKL interface and one of the FES adapters(ELM not required for ABS).

Your KKL will read the ABS ECU if you use one of the FES adapters.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIATECUSCAN-DIAGNOSTIC-ADAPTOR-SET-SRS-ABS-CAN-LEADS-/360384288479

Using a set of FES adapters you should be able to read the following ECU's:
1. Engine
2. ABS
3. Airbag
4. Steering(I think)

 

[TangerineTractor]

In the meantime, is there an easy way to check and/or clean the sensors? Might be worth doing that anyway at the weekend...

 

[Shadeyman]

Aibags and ABS are the 2 saftey features on our cars I leave to the experts. Cleaning a connector or two is about as far as I go so best you ask someone who has meddled with such devices cuz I'm scared to.