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Cinquecento Cinq Abarth Project 1.4 16v

Introduction

Its been a while since Team Lloyd did any projects, so yesterday we travelled miles to pick up this little gem!

Over the winter we hope to transform this cinq into possibly the first 1.4 16v with 6 speed gearbox, not sure if anyone has done it yet, altho have heard people thinking about it!

We now have the car and a brand new 1.4 16v engine and gearbox awaiting to be joined as one!

The photos:
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Emma.
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All interior trim stays in place, it's very light weight & be pointless replacing with anything else. Plus if you read the new rules for Nurburgring there must be no exposed sections inside cars all panels must be in place otherwise you're not allowed on.

I think most UK tracks will go same way.
That i did not know and i'm glad i do now, that would be well annoying getting all the way there and that happening lol
 
Only just noticed reply. The box looks great, really good and means handbrake has easier access. Though from what I can see in the pictures it still isn't as short as ours as we have moved the cable outside the box, it's higher up than your designed box. the original mounting point for cable on the rod was ground off and rewelded further up the rod by about 35mm this is what makes the fore and aft shifts much closer. Then by removing the reverse cable as it's not used on Sei's or later model FIRE engined Fiats we could shorten overall length which furthet quickens fore and aft movement, but also left to right but not making them so close left to right to risk a wrong selection.
 
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All going well insure tomorrow, MOT Wed then rolling road time Thu @ Rockingham.

The car is all together, Abarth side skirts back on, bumpers, spotlights rewired to a new switch, all underneath resprayed in stone chip paint etc etc

Therefore hope to have the car finished by Thu afternoon & should be bringing it to Stanford Hall, tho still need to sort out helper springs for front coil-overs to lower as if it's made any lower than it is the springs unseat when the carcis jacked up & Clio 172 rear springs to firm up & lower rear end.
 
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how exciting, i must see this car in the flesh at somepoint (preferably at a track i suppose). Very interested to see how much body-roll you get with that rear ARB fitted, its amazing how much roll you still get with the normal drop and front strut-brace found on many modded cento.
 
Not to mention it makes the car handle horribly. We've got a VW Lupo with AVO GTX coilovers all round in university and we took it out at Pembrey last week for testing. When we originally got there the springs were unseating and lifting a wheel at the rear. It handled horribly. Tightened them up so it stop doing it and handled 100% better. But obviously helper springs would be a better way to do it.

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I just have issues with jacking :D. Car is very stiff with that stronglex bush kit, and the springs are very high rated and hardly budge.

I don't know what ID my springs are though because of them being custom GAZ.

I might try and find out sometime tomorrow, maybe there's a stamp on the springs, then i'll know.

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MOT passed today, even emissions were a stroll & that's with the car not being mapped yet, just some rough guess work to get it going.

Mapping tomorrow with Chris at Lunar Racing, Rockingham Circuit. Can't wait until it's done, as the car feels brilliant already, so once mapped can only get better.
 
Hadn't updated this as the r/r day was a mixed bag.

It soon became apparent when the car was on the r/r that something was amiss.

We were getting unstable alternator readings of upto 16.8V's which considering the alternator was like ever single other item with regards to the engine, brand new as supplied from Fiat with by time got to r/r only covering 120miles.

Of course this played havoc with the fuelling, you could even hear the fuel pump going up and down with the voltage changes, so things like injector duration etc were just guess work to get it a bit better than it was.

But we couldn't run it much higher than about 5500rpm before the ECU would shut down with the excessive voltage, but even still it was making north of 70bhp at the wheels at this point, over 90bhp flywheel with a very flat torque curve which was a surprise, & considering peak power doesn't com in until over 6000rpm shows it was strong with much more to come especially once its run in. The power curve was very stable and climbing at a very nice angle, but the voltage thing just stopped us going any further with it.

So off home, took alternator off the Seicento as although we had an original Cinq alternator there is no way its going to be compatible and function correctly, pulley is not only wrong width, but sits in completely different position, and the pulley shaft on the alternators is complete different size, so even swapping was out, and although not needed in the track car its rated lower at 55amps compared to 70 of the other alternators we have and is of an older design with external fans etc so will have more resistance and drag than newer units, its one thing that have made steps in recent years as manufacturers try to reduce drag in everything to get lower and lower emissions and better mpg, and ever bhp counts!

Sei alternator on, and everything was perfect, no pulsing, no random rev counter, so just goes to show even if something is brand new you can't always assume its going to work OK.

I hope to get time to take it back and get it properly mapped before Standford Hall, but the car as is drives great and will be going even if i don't make the r/r beforehand.

And the alternator will be getting replaced with one with a new one with a working voltage regulator so the Sei can return to working!

Forgot to add, we tried both variations of our cam phaser removal plates we made, which channelled the oil through one of the two option there is, one the car felt very eager to pull, the other very flat, so we known which way to make a plate now if anyone finds themselves with a Punto engine and the huge cam phaser thing on the cam cover, it's only there for emissions retarding the cams back. in fact in the 'on cam' position the engine even not fully mapped feels stronger than our sei engine, though maybe the correct longer inlet tract 1.4 inlet manifold instead of using the 1.2 16V manifold makes a differance, but until we can run them back to back who knows.

Also forgot, we dropped in to AVO on the way home and picked up some helper springs so we could drop the front end ride height, lookds much better now and springs do not unseat on droop. Also measured where the original top mounts sit in the strut tops, and were amazed to find that the drivers side sat about 8mm further towards the engine than the passenger side meaning more camber drivers side to passenger side, so we modified the dtrut tops and in conjunction with Eibach camber bolts have pretty much equal camber both sides now at about 1.5degrees negative, plus bit of toe out for superb turn in, never thouht i'd say that i nreferance to a Cento.

Though I must also add, the combination of the front ATB LSD, and rear anti-roll bar makes the car corner so flat and you can get the power on so early compared to normal cento's, you can even get the back end to play, which considering these cars have woeful understeer as standard almost comes as a shock first time you thow it about.
 
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