General Angel Tuning remap for my 100hp

[robjnr]

No he didnt that is Red dot didnt he was just using their services...ring red dot and ask if they carried on with it ..I bet your answer will be no..

I've been looking on a site called MCC Sport http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...hs=GOJ&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=mv and they seem to have cracked the ECU of the Panda 100HP so it is doable.

 

[PNL]

I've been looking on a site called MCC Sport http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.mccsport.nl/&ei=rfRWTNmbC5TP4wbJ842nBQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmcc%2Bsport%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DGOJ%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GBfficial%26prmd%3Dmv and they seem to have cracked the ECU of the Panda 100HP so it is doable.

Dont forget to buy Euro's before you go then..

 

[robjnr]

I've sent them an email to see if they can send it out and if it can be uploaded at home via laptop.

 

[robjnr]

Well, by accident i came across a company who say they CAN remap the Panda 100HP, gains are 12bhp and 12NM, for £300 quid

Heres the link

http://www.tdperformance.co.uk/cars/fiat-tuning.html

 

[robjnr]

No one interested?

 

[randysbits]

No one interested?

Bit of a trek though ain't it !! ? And is it one of those cheap plug and play things and not tailored to each engine, if it's the cheapy, not worth the money as the gains can't be measured without a RR session.

 

[robjnr]

Yeh it is a bit of a trek but i have asked them if it can be sent out and uploaded via laptop at home, still awaiting reply. No it's not a 'tuning box' as far as i'm aware, it is probably a generic remap as that is what most remaps are unless you go custom which i would do but havwent found anywhere who will do it.

I don't understand why the 100HP's ECU is so hard to crack, why why why????

 

[LeanMeanRacing]

A 10% increase in power and torque is okay for £300 [plus expenses] is reasonable enough. However, is it worth it?

Do you extract all of the exisiting available performance all of the time? If track days are your thing, from experience, tyres will give the single largest improvement.

I realise that I am revisiting the Should I Modify a Panda? topic, but if you want real performance, sell the car and buy a used RenaultSport Clio, Honda Integra Type-R, Mitsubishi Evo, etc. One of my toys was an Evo 2 - £3k and 300bhp, 4WD, no driver aids = fun.

 

[trackdayqueen]

I've got 18 months (feels like forever) until I pay the car off. Then I think I will just buy a faster car, so don't really think it's worth spending the money on a remap, well for me anyway. I'm very much hoping I can afford an FD2. We'll see.

 

[dave]

if it was my money i would want a lot more detail before spending it, if some of the well respected proper tuners cant even get into the ecu bit, its strange how a doorstep mapper can

 

[robjnr]

A 10% increase in power and torque is okay for £300 [plus expenses] is reasonable enough. However, is it worth it?

Do you extract all of the exisiting available performance all of the time? If track days are your thing, from experience, tyres will give the single largest improvement.

I realise that I am revisiting the Should I Modify a Panda? topic, but if you want real performance, sell the car and buy a used RenaultSport Clio, Honda Integra Type-R, Mitsubishi Evo, etc. One of my toys was an Evo 2 - £3k and 300bhp, 4WD, no driver aids = fun.

Well i am trying to get as much as i can out of the panda without spending silly money. I will be doing more track days in the panda but it also has to cart the little one about so thats why i need the five doors. All my other cars have been quite fast cars, but they drink fuel. Thats why i got the panda, cheap to run and it's a hoot to drive. I'm just trying to make it a more envolving drive and i want to extract as much power out of it with out it costing a an arm and a leg.

For all the MPG camp, a remap CAN increase your MPG figure so it's not all about all out performance.

I timed a 100HP with a BMC CDA and remap on youtube doing a 0-60 and it was around 8 secs but it took a further 1 sec to get up to 70mph.

Now i've timed my car 0-60 and its around the same time (8secs) but it took a further 3.5 secs to get to 70mph.

2.5sec gain over 10mph is pretty impressive in my books.

 

[robjnr]

if it was my money i would want a lot more detail before spending it, if some of the well respected proper tuners cant even get into the ecu bit, its strange how a doorstep mapper can

Yeh that is what i'm concerned about but why would they list it?

 

[LeanMeanRacing]

I can see your point of view with regard to needing a frugal, fun, five-door car. So...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1674763.htm

From personal experience, the ATR is a great all-rounder, being relatively quick on track and then very comfortable on the journey home with five people on board.

If you have to keep the Panda, invest in some cut slicks and corner quicker - as you know already, that's where the fun is!

 

[dave]

but why would they list it?

a lot of doorstep mappers list them but have never seen one, as soon as they get one they find out what the rest of us already know

 

[trackdayqueen]

If you have to keep the Panda, invest in some cut slicks and corner quicker - as you know already, that's where the fun is!

ATR is a good all rounder.

Don't agree with putting stickier rubber on. Sure you'll corner faster but it'll be no fun at all. It has too much in grip in some ways as standard!

 

[robjnr]

I can see your point of view with regard to needing a frugal, fun, five-door car. So...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1674763.htm

From personal experience, the ATR is a great all-rounder, being relatively quick on track and then very comfortable on the journey home with five people on board.

If you have to keep the Panda, invest in some cut slicks and corner quicker - as you know already, that's where the fun is!

LPG is ok but not every garage sell it.

i know for a fact that lowering springs will get rid of the inside wheel spinning (as we found out as castle combe), less body roll means less likey to lift the inside wheel meaning more tyre to road contact, semi slicks are good in the dry but i still have to drive the little one around and its not something i'd chance just incase it rains.

 

[FullMetalPanda]

Ive only had my 100HP for a month or so but I know I will be ready for more power in a few years. I dont see the point in tuning it as I have a warranty for 3 years anyway for a start. In the end I will just buy a faster car like an Abarth 500. I think in the long run if you want something faster its better to just buy a faster car than modifying the one you have.

I would also like to know why the 100HP ecu seems so difficult to crack.

 

[dave]

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I would also like to know why the 100HP ecu seems so difficult to crack.

some are just made that way, like the punto mk2 hgt that's been around years an no one has cracked it yet

 

[LeanMeanRacing]

Don't agree with putting stickier rubber on. Sure you'll corner faster but it'll be no fun at all. It has too much in grip in some ways as standard!

Lauren - I thought that this would be your response and for track days, I tend to agree. However, robjnr wants more power which appears to suggest that he wishes to lap quicker, rather than to increase the fun factor. Hence my tyre suggestion.

Personally, I find cornering quicker [from increased tyre grip if necessary] to be good fun too!

robjnr - I'm not suggesting that you run semi-slicks on the road. Buy a second set of lightweight [Team Dynamics, Speedline, etc.] wheels and use them for track work.

 

[robjnr]

Lauren - I thought that this would be your response and for track days, I tend to agree. However, robjnr wants more power which appears to suggest that he wishes to lap quicker, rather than to increase the fun factor. Hence my tyre suggestion.

Personally, I find cornering quicker [from increased tyre grip if necessary] to be good fun too!

robjnr - I'm not suggesting that you run semi-slicks on the road. Buy a second set of lightweight [Team Dynamics, Speedline, etc.] wheels and use them for track work.

That would mean I'd have to tow a trailer to fit the spare wheels on and I don't want to be doing that. To be honest I am having more fun in the panda than I did in my Leon cupra tfsi, it's all about the grin factor, and surprising people.