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Technical Abarth - Performance Tuning

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Hi Ive got a 2004 abarth stilo and i am looking into modifying the engine, ive looked at demon tweaks and such and there seems to be little about for this car, i went to at tuner who told me to get rid of the engine and get the 2.0 20v turbo coupe engine instead but im relectant to do this as I think the engine should achive more than 170bhp. Ive already got a K&N 57i Induction kit waiting to go on but would like to know if there is any people out there that do stuff for this car. Even better if its around Norfolk please could you list some of the mods that have been effective

Btw please excuse me if this is already posted some where else as im new to this. Thanx
 
Re: Tuning a Abarth

the 2.4 can be taken to just over 200bhp with a GSR induction kit and live remap. It depends how much money you want to spend aswell? I think the remap and induction kit is around £400.

There is also a specialist exhaust being developed, with includes a sportcat, which is meant to give gains around the 20bhp mark but cost £1300 this would also need more mapping session.

There is also cams, head, etc... avaliable for the abarth. There is alot of work currently undergoing on testing these products and a fully spanked engine could see figures nearer 300bhp without a turbo :)

check out www.gsr-uk.co.uk

Oh and with the map and induction, owners are reporting 0-60 times of around 7/7.5 second :) :)
 
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Re: Tuning a Abarth

Angel tuning, who come to your house, will do you a remap that they claim gives a minimum of 17bhp for £300 if you ask nicely.
 
Re: Tuning a Abarth

the 2.4 can be taken to just over 200bhp with a GSR induction kit and live remap. It depends how much money you want to spend aswell? I think the remap and induction kit is around £400.

There is also a specialist exhaust being developed, with includes a sportcat, which is meant to give gains around the 20bhp mark but cost £1300 this would also need more mapping session.

There is also cams, head, etc... avaliable for the abarth. There is alot of work currently undergoing on testing these products and a fully spanked engine could see figures nearer 300bhp without a turbo :)

check out www.gsr-uk.co.uk

Oh and with the map and induction, owners are reporting 0-60 times of around 7/7.5 second :) :)

The person that makes the kits for all the cars is a resident Tech adviser on his own site which is www.performancestilo.co.uk so to me that would be the obvious place to go I think the only other site that deals with the stilo and has his support is www.fiatforum.com I think that should clear that up for all of you (y)

Plus you should read this thread http://www.performancestilo.co.uk/index.php/topic,220.0.html
 
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Re: Tuning a Abarth

Angel tuning, who come to your house, will do you a remap that they claim gives a minimum of 17bhp for £300 if you ask nicely.

Does that include a dyno run to prove that you have it :chin:

for £399 you get the gsr induction and a remap that gives you 205 bhp on the abarth and proven with a dyno run and print out so you can frame it and stick it on your bedroom wall :worship:

And I would like to state that in no way am I intending to influence any owner of any stilo on here you pay your money and take your choice (y)
 
Re: Tuning a Abarth

the 2.4 engine is based on the coupe 2L 20v engine anyway, wouldn't be much point in swapping engines.

plus you'd have issues with ECU, body computer etc and would costs ££££££ to do it.

like what has been said, GSR induction, remap, decent zorst the Abarth has 2 cats which restricts power.

Only reason thats it's only 170bhp as standard is FIAT couldn't get it through the emmisions, thats why they stuck 2 cats on it and other things which I've probably missed.
 
Re: Tuning a Abarth

Thankyou for the replies, and so fast. I never knew that the stilo had two cats must be a pain in the wallet if needed to replace them if you kept the car standard. It is also such a relief also to know that there are people out there that take the stilo seriously, instead of all the remarks of "oh you got a fiat" and "my van can go faster than that thing " so again I was to say thankyou :). Btw the person who made the comment about a van can go faster is a person that drives a 182 Clio with decat exhaust and induction kit plus something in his ecu that creates a false signal to make it belive that the air is cooler going into the intake
 
Re: Tuning a Abarth

What about removing both cats? Replacing cat mainfold with non cat from coupe or marea but how to cheat upstream lambda? I removed second cat and gained very little almost nothing but no problems with lambda.
My friend has KWP2000+ interface for remaping but he doesn't have map for my Stilo abarth. Where can i get this map. Angel tuning is to far away for me, couple thousands of miles. Here where i live in Serbia nobody is doing remap for stilo abarth only for jtd.
 
Re: Tuning a Abarth

wouldn't it fail on MOT if you remove both cats?

a sports cat would be your best bet.

Yep, i removed the cat on my old mini years ago, that failed the MOT and i had to buy a whole new section as i'd bought a straight through stainless system. replaced with a cat replacement pipe so come MOT day, 4 bolts to undo and pop the cat back in :D teh after passing change it back, LOL
 
Re: Induction kit and mass airflow sensor

Put it this way the reason the grs induction brings up engine lights on the 2.4 is because it flows so well and the extra flow affects the sensor ..but saying that if the AFM is fitted to the induction tube and the filter fitted to the end of that as Red Devil did you dont gain as much power but also don't get the engine light some times coming on ..this problem was looked into and it was found that some cars were over fueling and some were under fueling and wasnt a single problem on the cars which you would expect :confused: ..this can be corrected my mapping where by you should be able to remove the afm as well and increase flow and BHP .. now you are obviously talking about the likes of the K&N kits that are on the market for the stilo ..well I think you should be quite safe [hopefully] with the likes of these kits because they simply dont flow as well as the GSR kit and K&N probably make provision for the AFM and sensor in the kit anyway..so I think as long as you still use the AFM and maf sensor in the system you should be ok ..IE ..all show and no go as AplinePG often says :D
 
abarth upgrade to gain 30bhp+?

I'm feeling my abarth is underpowered considering its engine size,

So I'm wondering what the cheapest, and safest upgrade/ tuning there is to get atleast 30bhp more? I can't help but think they should have 200bhp.

Any ideas?
 
Re: abarth upgrade to gain 30bhp+?

I'm feeling my abarth is underpowered considering its engine size,

So I'm wondering what the cheapest, and safest upgrade/ tuning there is to get atleast 30bhp more? I can't help but think they should have 200bhp.

Any ideas?

Basically, you're after (in order):

1) Cat-back exhaust (removing the second cat)
2) Replacement Airbox (Something like a BMC CDA or a GSR if you're brave)
3) Engine Re-Map

After that, you should be close if not at 200bhp... ish... maybe.

(y)
 
Re: abarth upgrade to gain 30bhp+?

after gsr induction and re-map, i was at 199.7bhp, but because i changed it to incorporate the maf and housing i lost about 5-10bhp, many if not all the others were over 200bhp, and what a difference:D

but since then, i had a ecu update that was not meant for my car and its screwed the ecu, so mine is now down on power....cheers fiat:mad::mad:

30bhp down to be exact, so im in a on going dispute thats beeen going for about 2 years, so i dont expect much.:mad:
 
Re: abarth upgrade to gain 30bhp+?

after gsr induction and re-map, i was at 199.7bhp, but because i changed it to incorporate the maf and housing i lost about 5-10bhp,
Red, that's real interesting.

So basically a bigger MAF housing (if you could buy one) would deliver 5-10 more BHP on it's own :chin:
 
Re: abarth upgrade to gain 30bhp+?

Red, that's real interesting.

So basically a bigger MAF housing (if you could buy one) would deliver 5-10 more BHP on it's own :chin:

The silicone hosing of the induction tube around the MAF had to be changed on the abarth induction kit, reduced in diameter because it was causing the car to run lean bringing up all the warning light because of too much airflow at that point. So wouldnt a large MAF housing just do the same sort of thing
 
Re: abarth upgrade to gain 30bhp+?

The silicone hosing of the induction tube around the MAF had to be changed on the abarth induction kit, reduced in diameter because it was causing the car to run lean bringing up all the warning light because of too much airflow at that point. So wouldnt a large MAF housing just do the same sort of thing

correct, the maf housing slowed the airflow, and also reduced the airflow, tried bigger maf housing and got the same warning, the abarth is so complicated when it comes to the induction, why pete got so fed up i suppose:D

it has to be so pricise, i put the maf housing in coz the mot was due and i didnt want the warning lights as they were still working on a solution as the silcone tubing is slightly bigger than the original maf housing, i reduced the size just below the sensor, using a jubilee clip and tightened it as tight as it will go, this squashed the pipe down, and lights promptly went out and havnt been back since.

and as fiat didnt know about the map, the car was still under warrenty at the time, and if they new about the map, they probably would have wormed out of the gearbox under warrenty:bang:
 
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