General Abarth 500 Rant

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General Abarth 500 Rant

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Ever since the Trepiuno concept appeared at Geneva in 2004 I have lusted after the 500 and since an Abarth version was mooted in 2006 I knew it was the one for me.

Needless to say I was pretty quick in putting down a deposit last July. Since then the wait has been excruciating to put it mildly.

Perhaps foolishly on my part I originally expected to get the car in January - sadly this is not to be and any other date is sheer speculation at this time.

Frustration is rapidly replacing excitement.

The frustration is borne from the apparent shambles that is Abarth UK. People have said to me, email them - I did but got no reply. Having then phoned them I was told "Oh yes our email doesn't work - that's why we haven't replied". Now that's what I call service.

Today it has gone from bad to worse - they don't even have a functioning phone system - it rings, it puts you on hold and then it cuts you off.

The longer I wait the more I question the whole Abarth experience.

Despite having had our money since July we still have not been able to place our orders, nor do we know the prices, specifications or delivery dates.

We know that there will be 200 "take it or leave it" launch cars but beyond that we have no idea how long it might take to get our own spec cars. What with the Xmas break it is likely to be April at the very earliest - 9 months from placing deposit. If you want a car quicker you are effectively bullied into taking one of the 200 even if the spec isn't really to your liking.

So the email, phone, ordering and delivery aspects of the Abarth experience are left wanting, what does the rest of the set up look like?

The more I think about it the more I worry about the very small dealer network. Servicing is going to be a real issue - simply getting the car to the dealer is one problem and, if the general Fiat network is anything to go by, the quality of the service once you get there is another. At least with my Fiat I have been able to find a good local dealer but sadly unless they get awarded one of the few Abarth Service Centres they will not be able to deal with the 500A.

I take issue with Fiat/Abarth and their dealers saying "But it's not a Fiat, it's an Abarth." What a load of old tosh - it's like VW saying a Golf Gti isn't a VW it is a Gti. At the end of the day the Abarth is a mildly sporty Fiat when all's said and done. It isn't an Alpina BMW or a RUF Porsche or anything remotely like it.

The small dealer network could seriously impact on depreciation since only real petrol heads will put up with the pitifully small network and a huge part of the potential market for the cars may be deterred from even considering them.

Sorry if this may seem so negative but I think it raises some real issues which both Abarth, their dealers and potential purchasers might like to consider.

Despite all of this there isn't another car which I desire more than the 500 Abarth.
 
I feel your pain, it does seem that Abarth UK are a bit of a shambles.... it was almost as bad here to start with in Holland, but they seemed to pick it up almost overnight.... maybe the same will happen in the UK.

As far as servicing goes..... under European law you can have your car serviced at any accredited workshop and as long as OE parts are used the warranty remains valid. Your dealer might like to tell you otherwise (for obvious reasons!)

If you get really desperate there are plenty of Abarth 500s available on the German and NL markets waiting to be snapped up. Driving a LHD car in the UK is not a big deal and the export process from Germany is particularly easy. You can literally turn up on the day, bung on a set of Export plates (insurance included) and be on your way.
 
Thanks for the thoughts.

Sadly with the exchange rate the way it is (almost €1 to £1) a euro import would be seriously costly- not to mention even worse depreciation.

I guess I'll just have to tuff it out with everyone else!
 
Thanks for the thoughts.

Sadly with the exchange rate the way it is (almost €1 to £1) a euro import would be seriously costly- not to mention even worse depreciation.

I guess I'll just have to tuff it out with everyone else!

I have a lhd 500 and it is cooler IMO because it is lhd, you soon adapt.

There are plenty for sale in europe, if you want one go for it!

You can always re-sell it back into europe...


The lack of UK ones makes it even more desirable don't you think?
 
I feel your pain, it does seem that Abarth UK are a bit of a shambles.... it was almost as bad here to start with in Holland, but they seemed to pick it up almost overnight.... maybe the same will happen in the UK.

As far as servicing goes..... under European law you can have your car serviced at any accredited workshop and as long as OE parts are used the warranty remains valid. Your dealer might like to tell you otherwise (for obvious reasons!)

If you get really desperate there are plenty of Abarth 500s available on the German and NL markets waiting to be snapped up. Driving a LHD car in the UK is not a big deal and the export process from Germany is particularly easy. You can literally turn up on the day, bung on a set of Export plates (insurance included) and be on your way.

spot on!
 
I was called by my Abarth dealer today and they are expecting the first 200 cars in mid Feb and the prices to be finalised later this week. What was it that Top Gear said - all the fun of a £100,000 car for £13500
 
There are even rumours from some dealers (see Abarth Forum) that they might permit minor alterations to the spec of the first 200 - such as colour, trim, wheels etc.

One lives in hope
 
Red, white stripes & mirrors, 5 spoke wheels & cloth for me
 
i agree about the abarth dealer network and tbh this is what is putting me off an abarth my closest is dealer is going to be nearly an hours drive away !. the problem is fiat seem to think abarth is something its not like you said they are no alpina they are more like subaru's sti division. i will always crave for a 500A but i think i will wait and see first, good luck with it though and yes i am enviouse already so itl be worth it (y)
 
why? sti is an in-house tuning division alpina is not, fiat seem to think the abarth brand is more like the alpina /ruf /brabus tuning company's. when its realy more along the lines of renault sport / cooper / or even vauxhalls vxr, like all of these abarth is an inhouse company the abarth 500 is even being built in the same factory as all the other 500's in poland ! i was just reflecting the comments made on a post above
 
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Abarth IS a standalone brand within Fiat Group alongside Fiat, Alfa, Lancia, Maserati and Ferrari

It has it's own hq and marketing, development, manufacturing facilities and race team.
Current models are based on Fiats yes, but Abarth are not just a tarted up Fiat.

hope this helps.
 
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Current models arent just based on Fiats, they are Fiats... yes they have more power and lower suspension etc but the Grande Punto and 500 Abarths are just Fiats... it really doesnt matter if they have their own HQ etc at the end of the day, unless they make an Abarth in a totally new body with its own interior and the like, any Abarth will just be a tarted up Fiat... which is exactly what theyve always been.

Theres nothing wrong with that of course but I just dont see why they couldnt be sold as Fiat Abarths, at normal dealers, which would be far more appealing and easier.

I just cant see this working well here, there arent enough dealers and surely they wont sell enough cars and get enough work to keep going will they? The one nearest me does Lotus too, so theres a huge potential to go under as long as this downturn continues.
 
Current models arent just based on Fiats, they are Fiats... yes they have more power and lower suspension etc but the Grande Punto and 500 Abarths are just Fiats... it really doesnt matter if they have their own HQ etc at the end of the day, unless they make an Abarth in a totally new body with its own interior and the like, any Abarth will just be a tarted up Fiat... which is exactly what theyve always been.

Theres nothing wrong with that of course but I just dont see why they couldnt be sold as Fiat Abarths, at normal dealers, which would be far more appealing and easier.

I just cant see this working well here, there arent enough dealers and surely they wont sell enough cars and get enough work to keep going will they? The one nearest me does Lotus too, so theres a huge potential to go under as long as this downturn continues.

Establishing specific dealers is the best thing Abarth have done to position away from the poor Fiat dealers. Successful dealers interested in performance cars have been chosen - hence the brand synergy with Lotus makes a lot of sense to the target market Abarth is aimed at.
 
But our one is owned by the very same franchise that operates Fiat dealerships in the area:) so the service will be the same... and being Fiat related, parts supply will be poor too.
I just feel that a dedicated area in the better Fiat dealers will see more Abarths sold, it seems that Abarth are attempting to make out they arent Fiats right now, which of course they are... in fact someone at work remarked he saw a Punto covered in Abarth badges the other day in the car park. It was an Abarth Punto too... so it aint fooling anyone:)
 
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