Hi all,

I'm replacing the (leaking) brake limiter on my 1.6 SW Tempra.
The car does not have automatic levelling.
I bought a nice expensive new one...
There is an adjustment on the limiter.
I suppose you have to hook a weight to the limiter and tighten the adjustment bolt. I looked in three different manuals (Haynes, Porter, and the french RTA) and none talks about brake bias valve replacement/adjustment.
Does anyone know the correct procedure and/or knows the weight to hook?

All the best,
zp

Never replaced this but i would have thought that the adjustment is to take up any slack or backlash in the system. I'll have a look in my manuals anyway, may take a day or two.

Hi,

The brake limiter is supposed to cut the brake pressure to the rear drums when the rear suspension lifts itself due to the braking effect.
An adjustment has to be done to ensure that the cut-off level will be correct and that pressure will be withdrawn before the rear wheels lock.
I've replaced such parts on different cars and there is always an adjustment to compensate for linkage differences, ride height, ....
On my Tempra, I see (you have it on the 1st picture) a "hook" in the limiter arm, i suppose you have to pull the lever arm with a load tied to this hole.
Besides, there is a nut in the middle of the arm itself (see 2nd picture) with an adjusting window behind. So i suppose this is the adjustment...

All the best,
zp

Hi,

I replaced the limiter yesterday. I confirm an adjustment has to be made to achieve proper spring tension.
I still lack the proper value for this adjustment. Does anyone know what it should be?

All the best,
zp

if you go to a fiat garage they will be able to tell you from technical mauals

basicly you hang a wheight off it and also have to put a certain wheight in the boot

with the car on level ground

if you realy get stuck i will have a look for you at work we have manuals for tempra

Hi,

The problem we have around here is that most fiat dealers think tempras are too old to be serviced, they don't want to provide spares, don't want to service the cars, don't even want to help.
They only want you to buy a new fiat and junk your tempra.
I already tried four dealers in my area, none of them had the shop manual for tempra. When i asked how they could service tempras without reference values for torques or whatever, they simply said they didn't service tempras anymore.
What a bunch of assholes
I told them there was no way i was going to buy a grande punto...unless they give it to me.

regards,
zp*

at my garage we still service a fiat 500 for a local that runs an italian resteraunt he drove it all the way from italy to the lake district


when it comes to a car as old as a tempra all that is needed is oil and filter air filter if needed and a good lock round mabey a look at the back brakes once in a wile

so i dont see why they are so reluctent to do it for you
in my opinion if you buy a fiat it should be serviced for life by a fiat dealer non of this too old buisness


i will have a look for you tomorow and post back on wednesday or thursday

their are too many dealers that are to intrtested in selling new cars and not loocking after the customers they have

thank god the one i work in isent
we have manuals for all the old fiats right back to the 500 600 and 126 eara
and then all the modern cars are on cd we even have the old examiner for cars like yours basikly all cars since the start of injection
if its a fiat and it's injection it has a diagnostics plug

most dealers tend to chuck out all this stuff

here is your answer

markiz said:

here is your answer

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Thanks for posting this picture.
The data in the picture calls for a pull force on the lever of 55 Nm on all models except the 1600 automagic petrol and the 1900 TDi, these should be 30 Nm.

Nm's are a torque figure, not usually used for straight "pulls", however if you do the setting as per the illustration (Job 12-8) and pull as shown (down) then this does equate to a rotation of Item 3 on pivot 1, so Nm can be converted to Kgf (lbf).
Very roughly 10Nm = 1Kgf (2.2 lbf).

Ziomike said:

Thanks for posting this picture.
Nm's are a torque figure, not usually used for straight "pulls", however if you do the setting as per the illustration (Job 12-8) and pull as shown (down) then this does equate to a rotation of Item 3 on pivot 1, so Nm can be converted to Kgf (lbf).
Very roughly 10Nm = 1Kgf (2.2 lbf).

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Hi,

thanks for the info.
I think there is a type mismatch and you have to read 55N instead of 55Nm.
That is, hang a 5.5kg weight and adjust the bolt!
I will adjust mine tomorrow

All the best,
zp

zp* said:

Hi, Thanks for the info. I think there is a type mismatch and you have to read 55N instead of 55Nm. That is, hang a 5.5kg weight and adjust the bolt! I will adjust mine tomorrow All the best, zp

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Yup, that's what I was trying to get across, there is a type mismatch, but with the direction of pull equating to rotation you get back to hanging a weight in the end. Alls well that ends well.

Happy Christmas.

Hi,

A little present for tempra owners replacing brake limiters :


All the best,
zp*