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Fiat Albea not start

Hello, i need help to find a problem my 2008 Fiat Albea 1.4 57kw.
In the cold mornings car start and shut down. I tried many times but not starting.
Okey, i call a friend who come with diagnostic equipment and find that intake air temp is 70C, but outside temp is 5C.
When i unplug the intake map sensor the car start and i can drive but its not correct to drive when the plug is not connected.
I ordered a new Intake MAP sensor (0 261 230 030).
Yesterday my friend came and put it in the place, all faults deleted and trying to start, but same result, start and shut down..
New sensor shows correct outside temp and when i unplug the new sensor and start the car and put the plug back the car stops when plug connected.
Car coolant temp sensor working, maybe someone can help me
Thanks.
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Hello, i need help to find a problem my 2008 Fiat Albea 1.4 57kw.
In the cold mornings car start and shut down. I tried many times but not starting.
Okey, i call a friend who come with diagnostic equipment and find that intake air temp is 70C, but outside temp is 5C.
When i unplug the intake map sensor the car start and i can drive but its not correct to drive when the plug is not connected.
I ordered a new Intake MAP sensor (0 261 230 030).
Yesterday my friend came and put it in the place, all faults deleted and trying to start, but same result, start and shut down..
New sensor shows correct outside temp and when i unplug the new sensor and start the car and put the plug back the car stops when plug connected.
Car coolant temp sensor working, maybe someone can help me
Thanks.
I put some pictures.
Is this the 8 valve engine. As found in the grande punto..

Answer may be found there.
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Is this the 8 valve engine. As found in the grande punto..

Answer may be found there.
Yes, 1.4 57kw 8V
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Re: Fiat Albea not start

Someone know whats the problem?
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Re: Fiat Albea not start

the pics seem to take an age to open..,
I've given up..!!

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-pun...tting-out.html

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-pun...d-starter.html


GUIDE =https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-guides/227405-1-2-1-4-map-sensor-replacement.html

let us know what you find.

did you get an error code with YOUR MAP sensor unplugged..??
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the pics seem to take an age to open..,
I've given up..!!

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-pun...tting-out.html

https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-pun...d-starter.html


GUIDE =https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto-guides/227405-1-2-1-4-map-sensor-replacement.html

let us know what you find.

did you get an error code with YOUR MAP sensor unplugged..??
Yes, when MAP is unplugged i have 2 fault.
Manifold absolute pressure and intake air temperature.
Starter works fine, engine temp is 90C and i plug the old sensor and intake air temp is 70C, engine not shut down but idle fluctuated, and one fault code is active: Mass or Volume air flow.
Maybe the new sensor is faulty?
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Re: Fiat Albea not start

Where i can find MAP sensor wiring scheme?
1-2-3-4 pin?
What is what?
I try new sensor temp sensor and old sensor absolute pressure to find out is the new sensor is faulty or not.
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Where i can find MAP sensor wiring scheme?
1-2-3-4 pin?
What is what?
I try new sensor temp sensor and old sensor absolute pressure to find out is the new sensor is faulty or not.
Someone?
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