Technical Pad Wear Indicator

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Technical Pad Wear Indicator

Argonought

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Just been checking all my pads for wear and noticed that only one of the front passenger side pads has a wear indicator fitted (no protection for rear at all :( )

Slightly surprised by this as kinda assumed the Stilo would monitor ALL pads for wear.

Anyone like to confirm this is the same for their Stilo?
 
You greedy boy :) you want more than one indicator :nono: :p fraid so Mate its a good old fashioned wheel off and inspect job on the rears (y)
 
No Argo, rears have no wear indicators fitted. Rears on 1.6 didn't and believe rears are all the same regardless of model. When I did the fronts on my 1.6 rust rim on outer of the disc had almost cut its way through the wire :eek: some use eh?
 
Stuart DemonD said:
No indicators on the 2.4 - although I just had to have my rear pads and disks replaced last week; it was nearly metal on metal, lol.....

I hope you went forward and had fitted some nice performance parts instead of those crappy OEM discs :)
 
PNL said:
I hope you went forward and had fitted some nice performance parts instead of those crappy OEM discs :)
I did indeed - EBC rear disks with green stuff pads - plus I bought a new set of green stuff front pads to have as a spare, have about 5000 miles left on the front.
 
Stuart DemonD said:
I did indeed - EBC rear disks with green stuff pads - plus I bought a new set of green stuff front pads to have as a spare, have about 5000 miles left on the front.

There's a good boy you are
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As the bias is towards the front, the fronts will wear out quicker, so it's fairly logical...

I have the same, one sensor on the front; after seeing the state of my pads before changing them (3mm left!) I'd recommend changing before the sensor warning comes on!
 
tkmking said:
As the bias is towards the front, the fronts will wear out quicker, so it's fairly logical...

I have the same, one sensor on the front; after seeing the state of my pads before changing them (3mm left!) I'd recommend changing before the sensor warning comes on!

I always do (y) and good point :)
 
tkmking said:
I have the same, one sensor on the front; after seeing the state of my pads before changing them (3mm left!) I'd recommend changing before the sensor warning comes on!
Mine are like that now! Starting to wonder if the sensor can even be relied upon (I should've tested it :eek: )

Come to think of it :chin: don't remember any posts about the warning light coming on at all :eek:
 
Argonought said:
Mine are like that now! Starting to wonder if the sensor can even be relied upon (I should've tested it :eek: )

Come to think of it :chin: don't remember any posts about the warning light coming on at all :eek:

Now how many times have I told you you musnt rely on these bloody sensors :p good old fashioned maintenance you cant beat it :D in other word get of your arse and check them ;) :D
 
Theres only one Dan and ist on the nearside (y) just hope the offside dont ware down quicker thats all ;)
 
ALL Stilos only have one wear indicator for brake pads, which is on the front left wheel.

I believe the logic is that fronts should wear out evenly (hence no need for drivers pad sensor) and before the rears. One expects that, when the fronts go, the rears should be at least checked if not replaced, and rear brake check and clean is part of the 36k service.

Although, I've never trusted these sensors, my mum's never went off and I couldn't get the bugger to come on (earthed the wire as per diagrams and sweet F.A. happened!)
 
Big Black Stilo said:
I ironically with the stilo, the lip of the disc cut through the wire before the pads wore out.
Did you see any flicker of the warning light as the disc cut through the wire (think it should earth through the disc) ?
rroope said:
....my mum's never went off and I couldn't get the bugger to come on (earthed the wire as per diagrams and sweet F.A. happened!)
Just as I feared :(

As it so happens all my pads are between 3 - 5 mm so it's a good chance to change the whole lot :)
 
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In my memory of FIATs fitted with 'check control' features, it was the Tipo that introduced the idea of the pad wear sensor on one side only.

To be honest, it makes good sense since it cuts in half the risk of false warnings, which are common due to negligence in maintenance. Sometimes the wires simply fall off the pad, other times the wire gets trapped/cut by other bits (as mentioned by BBS) - very often it's not hooked up at all which gives no warning anyway.

The earliest systems (e.g. on the Croma/Lancia Thema) had a wire loop in the pad - two wires back to the car - thus giving a two-stage warning; stage one being when the wire earthed, stage two being when the loop was broken. Of course, if the wire was left off, the system gave a warning as well. I like this, it encourages us to get everything working properly :)

However the cars were soon modified with a jumper across the two-pin plug and a single wire to the pad. I suspect this was due to an exceedingly-high number of false alarms (with two wires, double the chance of breakage...) and anyway, the single wire gives a two-stage warning of sorts, since if only just worn enough, the wire contacts the disc only when braking. But it does mean that if there wire isn't hooked up properly, there won't be a warning.

I don't remember a single case where the wear indicator actually came on to indicate wear... and I do remember a case where the pads wore right down to the metal on a Thema, and of course the sensor wire wasn't connected... and being the modified system, there was no warning...

In other words, thought I've spent many happy hours making adaptor leads to connect-up pad sensor wires, I've never seen one actually work when needed :D

-Alex
 
Does anyone know what this is?

I found this dangling near my caliper on the o/s front wheel. Is this the brake disc wear sensor or something else? Does anyone know where it should be connected to and moreover why mine might have been disconnected?

many thanks for your help

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Re: Does anyone know what this is?

Yep, that's your pad wear indicator.

Should be connected to one of the pads (only 1 of the 4 front pads are wired)

A little bracket should hold it to the back of the caliper so it's out of way of the disc.
 
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