Tuning Stilo 1.6 16v chiptuning
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Tuning Stilo 1.6 16v chiptuning
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Personally I would not recommend any chip tuning.
- Bypass protection so feul rail pressure run above safety limit.
- Change power curve to were your crank etc. is not designed for stess at that lower rpm.
When you scroll through their website all cars can be tuned? ( Not true )
All cars show same % performance increase? ( can't be ) they just populate data and add standard %
I would rather enhance the intake & outlet air / gas systems, if no open engine work is to be done.
- Bypass protection so feul rail pressure run above safety limit.
- Change power curve to were your crank etc. is not designed for stess at that lower rpm.
When you scroll through their website all cars can be tuned? ( Not true )
All cars show same % performance increase? ( can't be ) they just populate data and add standard %
I would rather enhance the intake & outlet air / gas systems, if no open engine work is to be done.
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Absolute 100% fake.
I see performance gains there which sometimes can not even be achieved with additional hardware tuning (e.g. the fiat 1.4-16v 95/100hp engines), or gains in closed-loop systems without the possibility to perform reprogramming (e.g. hitachi-controlled fiat 1.8-16v 130hp engines).
I see performance gains there which sometimes can not even be achieved with additional hardware tuning (e.g. the fiat 1.4-16v 95/100hp engines), or gains in closed-loop systems without the possibility to perform reprogramming (e.g. hitachi-controlled fiat 1.8-16v 130hp engines).
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Cheers Guys
I thought as much
As you say the usual trick is a resistor in a black box to fool the standard ECU in to running a higher fuel rail pressure right across the range
Which was not what I was looking for
Is there any way of flashing the standard ECU and loading a slightly improved map?
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I thought as much
As you say the usual trick is a resistor in a black box to fool the standard ECU in to running a higher fuel rail pressure right across the range
Which was not what I was looking for
Is there any way of flashing the standard ECU and loading a slightly improved map?
Ta
Jo0Lz
I was looking into chip tuning a while back. A friend works as a technician at a big chip tuning company and has done lots of cars for friends of ours. He advised not to do anything to my 1.4 Stilo.
In general it works well when you get it done specifically to your car using live engine data. Also turbocharged engines give the best results as turbos make it much easier for performance gains.
If you are looking for some basic minor and easy to do yourself tuning - I fitted a K&N filter and intake to my 1.4 and have noticed a difference in pull and improved engine note (it has a nice deep grumble when accelerating whilst not being annoyingly loud all the time). The car drives better and is noticeably more alive
Pair it with a nice tuned rear silencer or full custom stainless steel exhaust and you could get a nice HP boost (I reckon 10HP easily) and great sound to match. Look into that, personally I absolutely wouldn't recommend chip tuning this engine.
In general it works well when you get it done specifically to your car using live engine data. Also turbocharged engines give the best results as turbos make it much easier for performance gains.
If you are looking for some basic minor and easy to do yourself tuning - I fitted a K&N filter and intake to my 1.4 and have noticed a difference in pull and improved engine note (it has a nice deep grumble when accelerating whilst not being annoyingly loud all the time). The car drives better and is noticeably more alive
Pair it with a nice tuned rear silencer or full custom stainless steel exhaust and you could get a nice HP boost (I reckon 10HP easily) and great sound to match. Look into that, personally I absolutely wouldn't recommend chip tuning this engine.
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I'm not aware of any known ECU remaps for the 1.6
But it is possible to get a custom remap done. But that will cost you.
But it is possible to get a custom remap done. But that will cost you.
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Cheers StiloCZ
I think I have well and truly decided it is not worth it with the 1.4 or 1.6 Torque [original Lambredi] engine
Having searched and read a lot of the threads on here about the 1.6 I can see that they cook the OEM ECU as it sit in a really daft place!
If I manage to nab the cheap 1.6 relatively low mileage 2002 car I'm looking at I thinking order of jobs to do will be
Ultimately if it starts having electrical 'issues' I might end up giving up on my potential longer term plan to transplanting the 1.6 DOHC Torque into my X1/9
OR have to start looking at MicroSquirt anyway for any transplant to work
I think I have well and truly decided it is not worth it with the 1.4 or 1.6 Torque [original Lambredi] engine
Having searched and read a lot of the threads on here about the 1.6 I can see that they cook the OEM ECU as it sit in a really daft place!
If I manage to nab the cheap 1.6 relatively low mileage 2002 car I'm looking at I thinking order of jobs to do will be
- Remove ECU and check all soldered connections
- Refit the ECU relocated adjacent the battery
- Run a cooling air duct from the front of the car to the new ECU position
- Remove/Clean the throttle body
- Look to fit a catch can within the engine breather system
- Improve the induction side, K&N or cone filter + cool air duct?
- Improve the exhaust as and when
Ultimately if it starts having electrical 'issues' I might end up giving up on my potential longer term plan to transplanting the 1.6 DOHC Torque into my X1/9
OR have to start looking at MicroSquirt anyway for any transplant to work
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obviously if I end up going down the MicroSquirt rabbit hole . . .
I've a LOT of reading and a LOT of learning to do!
http://www.useasydocs.com/quickstart.htm
obviously if I end up going down the MicroSquirt rabbit hole . . .
I've a LOT of reading and a LOT of learning to do!
http://www.useasydocs.com/quickstart.htm
With the relocated ECU, the 1.6 is a great engine. Have seen plenty of cars with over 150 000 miles with this engine.
A bit of advice - as the engine ages, the 1.6 can get quit oil thirsty. Also they are pretty picky with oil - the OEM recommended Selenia works best in my experience. Make sure to keep it topped up and check periodically, you would be surprised to see how much oil can slip through.
Check the timing belts when buying as seemingly bargain low mileage cars tend to have the original belts on them. Would immediately change spark plugs and also the alternator belt. Just makes everything easier.
Not to be sceptical on the mileage, but it's so easy to clock these cars that I would base my decision on buying purely on the condition of the car. Ten or twenty thousand miles give or take is not important for an 18 year old car. I'm a bit of a pessimist with low mileage cars, I've just seen sooo many "bargains gone wrong" over the years that I don't believe anyone anymore
Good luck!
A bit of advice - as the engine ages, the 1.6 can get quit oil thirsty. Also they are pretty picky with oil - the OEM recommended Selenia works best in my experience. Make sure to keep it topped up and check periodically, you would be surprised to see how much oil can slip through.
Check the timing belts when buying as seemingly bargain low mileage cars tend to have the original belts on them. Would immediately change spark plugs and also the alternator belt. Just makes everything easier.
Not to be sceptical on the mileage, but it's so easy to clock these cars that I would base my decision on buying purely on the condition of the car. Ten or twenty thousand miles give or take is not important for an 18 year old car. I'm a bit of a pessimist with low mileage cars, I've just seen sooo many "bargains gone wrong" over the years that I don't believe anyone anymore
Good luck!
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Thanks for the good advice
I'm guessing the oil consumption could come from having 16 valve guide seals that can wear out
As for mileage, totally agree any 18 year old could have suspect mileage
The seller 'says' it's his Nan's car
The online MOT records show low annual mileages between MOTs for as many years as the records I can see
Bodywork is battered, but I'm not worried about that
It's really cheap
So if it turned out to be a total pile of poop I could sell some parts and scrap the remnants to recoup cash and reduce any loss
I'm guessing the oil consumption could come from having 16 valve guide seals that can wear out
As for mileage, totally agree any 18 year old could have suspect mileage
The seller 'says' it's his Nan's car
The online MOT records show low annual mileages between MOTs for as many years as the records I can see
Bodywork is battered, but I'm not worried about that
It's really cheap
So if it turned out to be a total pile of poop I could sell some parts and scrap the remnants to recoup cash and reduce any loss
That's a good mindset. Keep us posted! Always nice to see a Stilo rise from the ashesThanks for the good advice
I'm guessing the oil consumption could come from having 16 valve guide seals that can wear out
As for mileage, totally agree any 18 year old could have suspect mileage
The seller 'says' it's his Nan's car
The online MOT records show low annual mileages between MOTs for as many years as the records I can see
Bodywork is battered, but I'm not worried about that
It's really cheap
So if it turned out to be a total pile of poop I could sell some parts and scrap the remnants to recoup cash and reduce any loss
