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New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

Hi guys, just fitted new Crosland fuel filter as part of oil and filter service for my 2007 1.9 jtd 16valve multijet 150. For some reason, after priming filter with 5/6 key turns to mar position, I now have `check fuel filter` warning on dash. Anyone had this and whats the solution ? Also, what size hex key to unscrew oil sump plug, is it 12mm ? ATB
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

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Does your car have the plastic housing and "paper" element filter or the metal cartridge type? It's not unknown for a new cartridge type filter to have a faulty water detector. Try unplugging the detector and see if the error clears.

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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

the crossland filter if cheap probably doesn't come with a water in fuel sensor, ive fitted a few and usually swap the sensor off my original expensive one over to the cheap replacement that will come with a plastic screw at the bottom.
its the metal cartridge with quick fit connections, a drip of fuel on the pipes to lubricate the orings inside wouldn't go a miss and make sure the connections are all the way on and click .
never had any issue with 10 or more filters on my jtd 150, always primed key on to bleed a few times and started when sounded primed.
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

How often do these filters need to be changed?

I presume if they "have water" in them you can just drain them and carry on... so are they changed "by mileage", or by age? Mines' done aboot 43,000 miles now and I never touched it..

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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

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How often do these filters need to be changed?
Every 12,000 miles according to the service schedule.
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

Replace Air filter every 24,000 miles? I'm changing mine every 12,000.. and even that looks like too many miles.

I'd better buy the beast a new fuel filter for the next service though. It'll have done a tour of 48,000 by the time I change it.. Ooops!


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Quote Originally Posted by Barry1955 View Post
Hi guys, just fitted new Crosland fuel filter as part of oil and filter service for my 2007 1.9 jtd 16valve multijet 150. For some reason, after priming filter with 5/6 key turns to mar position, I now have `check fuel pump` warning on dash. Anyone had this and whats the solution ? Also, what size hex key to unscrew oil sump plug, is it 12mm ? ATB
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Plug..12mm hex is common with FIAT.

MY 1st JTD .. with FFSH..... the sump plug was so badly rounded I had to butcher it out and replace it
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

Quote Originally Posted by g8rpi View Post
Hi,

Does your car have the plastic housing and "paper" element filter or the metal cartridge type? It's not unknown for a new cartridge type filter to have a faulty water detector. Try unplugging the detector and see if the error clears.

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Hi g8rpi, its the metal canister type, just replaced the black plastic screw-in sensor off bottom of old filter into new filter, clicked on electrics connector and primed before starting engine. Will be trying again later to see if its one of those self clearing messages.
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Hi g8rpi, its the metal canister type, just replaced the black plastic screw-in sensor off bottom of old filter into new filter, clicked on electrics connector and primed before starting engine. Will be trying again later to see if its one of those self clearing messages.
Start it up 3 or 4 times - error should clear and stop displaying the filter warning and the error message on the instrument panel.

If it doesnt then you will need to use MES to clear it, it should clear though as the issue is no longer present.
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

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How often do these filters need to be changed?

I presume if they "have water" in them you can just drain them and carry on... so are they changed "by mileage", or by age? Mines' done aboot 43,000 miles now and I never touched it..

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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

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the crossland filter if cheap probably doesn't come with a water in fuel sensor, ive fitted a few and usually swap the sensor off my original expensive one over to the cheap replacement that will come with a plastic screw at the bottom.
its the metal cartridge with quick fit connections, a drip of fuel on the pipes to lubricate the orings inside wouldn't go a miss and make sure the connections are all the way on and click .
never had any issue with 10 or more filters on my jtd 150, always primed key on to bleed a few times and started when sounded primed.
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Hi sussexa, that's the same filter I fitted, and fitted in same way. Car starts and runs ok. Where is the water sensor and what does it look like ? I just unscrewed the black plastic `thingy` from old filter and screwed into new one , then clipped wiring connector back on.
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

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Plug..12mm hex is common with FIAT.

MY 1st JTD .. with FFSH..... the sump plug was so badly rounded I had to butcher it out and replace it
Hi varesecrazy, had to buy an 8mm hex socket sump key or my multijet, and must have been tightened by a gorilla. At least the 12mm one fits the wifes Punto
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

the black plastic thingy you switched over is the water in diesel sensor.
ive been swapping the sensor to the cheaper filters for some time now, just be careful not to break it i usually fit the new rubber off the plastic drain tap from the crossland and just dont overtighten it as i think the filter with sensor in it was 40-50.
regarding change times i tend to do every year regardless especially if i pick up a few on offer in bulk.
never had a water in fuel message show so no idea how much it would need to trigger alarm but im guessing the nipple on the top is opened up and the water bled out(guessing never had to do it)
i run higher fuel rail pressure and filters are cheaper than injectors or a high pressure fuel pump.
i think the multijet was down for 60,000km filter change in the manual too far for my liking.
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Re: New fuel filter, but `check fuel filter` warning now flashes

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43k miles without fuel filter change?
Aye! I thought it must have a service life around the same as a cambelt for instance... since all its doing really is filtering what should be clean fuel anyway, so I'm not sure it should ever really clog up...

The car runs absolutely fine.. just some occasionally vague acceleration around 3000rpm which might go away when I stick a new filter on there.

I've never had a "water in the fuel" message even though 43,000 miles means it's had a lot of opportunity to collect it. I dunno what causes water in the fuel .. but I run a dash of kerosene/2-EHN mix in the the tank... and I usually drive the car about 25 miles each way in my usual routine .. so it's always thoroughly warmed up twice a day.

Anyway.. maybe I've just been lucky. I've ordered a new filter for the next service ..


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im guessing the nipple on the top is opened up and the water bled out(guessing never had to do it)
Diesel fuel being an oil would float on top of water, so any water would accumulate at the bottom of the filter.

Normal way to drain it would be to loosen the white cap or water sensor at the bottom of the filter. The white cap has a small tube moulded into the bottom of it that you can hold a small container (spray can lid) under it. Can't remember if the black sensor has the tube.
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