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Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

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Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Ok then guys...

On my way to do another few hours on the car and will hopefully test drive it tonight.

It wont be my daily driver again until the weekend though, i need to get a new tyre and swap over a tyre on the rear as one rear wheel is buckled and i dont fancy my chances doing the rest of my commute with a buckled wheel... i can just imagine id knacker the hub etc on the rear if driven too much like that.

So tonight, i am cleaning off excess copper grease on my front pads lol... then doing the rears. All the front is complete now.

I also had to rebuild old calliper that snapped off... the replacement didnt fit... it was for a less powerfull jtd and they are smaller anyhow repaired and fitted, will replace with a new one at some point for piece of mind.

Anyway rear brakes by fiat's procedure, i need to undo the handbrake adjuster, mark it and give it 3 full turns to slacken it... then disconnect rear cables on calipers then wind them back... once pads back in and system is bled, i have to pump the pedals about 15 to 20 times with the engine running then put the handbrake adjuster back to its original position to keep the handbrake nice and tight.

If anyone else knows an easier method then please do feel free to add your ideas / experiences... i have had nothing but problems with handbrakes when i did my old stilo... i followed the procedure but it never worked, handbrake was hardley existent, brakes locked up nice under heavy foot breaking so it wasnt the pads, discs or bleeding...

Anyhow... when thats finished (hopefully tonight) i can then torque up rear shocks under load and take daniella for a test drive... then its waiting till saturday to replace wheels and tyre.
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Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

She drives... update tomorrow...
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So then guys, finished the car last night at around 8:30...

Took her for a test drive, feels great... couple of niggles but the new suspension has transformed the car... she now feels taught and firm... not as soft and bouncy as before - win win, so glad i did both sides... she rides like a brand new car.

Just got tracking to do now.

Couple of niggles:

Can hear a weird clonk when i go forwards from reverse and when going into second from first and putting her under load - sounds like the driver side... could be something loose or a mount or my mechanic may have loosened the hub nut on drivers side - dont think he did but will check today... it could be me too so will keep and eye on it, its definatley not suspension... its something to do with shaft or a mount...

Next issue... brakes!
They are nice and sharp, handbrake is awesome - followed fiat's procedure from elearn... however, it didnt take much bleeding, i starter with rear driver side (furthest away from resovoir) took lots of bleeding on that rear driver side so did all other sides and then went round again twice... used about 400ml at the very most, old fluid was nasty and dirty.. all callipers had been removed completley and lines plugged up with old brake lines tapered off...

Well they work good but the peddal seens to travel away still and you have to keep a constant press to keep the same level of braking, couldnt see any leaks... will inspect again this afternoon and go round all 4 corners again and give it another bleeding session as i think there could still be some air in the system.

If not then im at a loss... doubt its the damaged calliper that i repaired, the sliding pin that bent was removed and replaced, it was the one with the rubber boot round the bottom that sits in a recess... the round brass ring that the big rubber boot goes over has a tiny crack and is a tiny bit out of shape however the bore and new pin fit perfectly and slide with nice resistance, rubber boot also fits and stays on fine... will double check this but cant see it been and issue.. if it is then a new carrier will be needed - not a big issue.

Last thing i was thinking was the brake pressure switch / pin or whatever it is... i read the end can brake and cause a soft wandering away peddal and is quite common on stilo and bravo... can anyone confirm?
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Finally had tracking done today since all the front was completed and finally feel safe to hoon the thing on the bypass again...

Drives spot on and feels like a new car... just got the offside bearing to replace and tyre place have recommended that i replace the rack ends and track rods as the threads are seizing up more and more each time i have had it aligned... so will order them bits next month...

Feeling much happier with her now and want to keep her again
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With that amount of toe-in you may well find the edges of the tyres wear too much.

Better to set for zero toe which is now the recommended setting.

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We struggled to get -0 toe with my current rods and rack ends... they are worn... will be replaced soon and will have -0.0 toe total.
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We struggled to get -0 toe with my current rods and rack ends... they are worn... will be replaced soon and will have -0.0 toe total.
Just be aware that it's likely from factory that the track rods aren't keyed, so it's not like you can get them off with a good spanner. Certainly mine weren't, so I had to use one of these things:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steering-R...item20cdf14e6c

to remove the rod. Tell you what though it make the job so simple it was unreal.

If you do it and use one of these things - just don't put the car on full lock when you do. When on full lock the head of the track rod ends up right alongside the chassis leg and the bulky head of the tool doesn't have enough room. If you wind the steering back in half a turn or so the head of the tool can fit passed the chassis leg and you've got plenty of room to work.
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Quote Originally Posted by Artermis View Post
Just be aware that it's likely from factory that the track rods aren't keyed, so it's not like you can get them off with a good spanner. Certainly mine weren't, so I had to use one of these things:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steering-R...item20cdf14e6c

to remove the rod. Tell you what though it make the job so simple it was unreal.

If you do it and use one of these things - just don't put the car on full lock when you do. When on full lock the head of the track rod ends up right alongside the chassis leg and the bulky head of the tool doesn't have enough room. If you wind the steering back in half a turn or so the head of the tool can fit passed the chassis leg and you've got plenty of room to work.
Thanks bud - looks like im going to be busy this time next month!
Will be sorting out both rack ends and rods along with offside hub bearing and hopefully that stubborn calliper on the nearside front.
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Sorted calliper and bearing... had bearing pressed in at garage... but took took the hub and not the car... cost me 20. To be honest. I could of done it with the iron bench and press we have here but i didn't have time and funds to get another bearing if all went pairshaped... so thats done.

Calliper carrier replaced and moving freely... however, i dont recommend green stuff pads... even the non grabby side and rear wheels have built up so much dust like you would not imagine...

Anyhow, final call is tripods and cups but im struggling to find any issue with them... there solid and not dry..

Also track rods and rack end threads appear fine and i have cleaned them some more so will have to go somewhere else for 4 wheel alignment as my hgv mechanic said get me under the car in the place your getting alignment done and ill do it.... so im confident they dont need replacing... however, its not expensive...

Thank god shes coming along now and being driven more
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