Register Login
Shop4Parts - UK's largest online superstore for FIAT and Alfa Romeo parts
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 19-08-2017   #16
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Thetford
Posts: 319
Thanks: 28
Trader Rating: 0
andydiver has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Hi, am impressed by your Persistence and planning on this! What a thing to happen. Cheers
Thanks dtimmins1985, Moimo thanked for this post
Likes dtimmins1985 liked this post
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

andydiver is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 19-08-2017   #17
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Got the part numbers...

Progress yesterday.

Also removed strut and hub and compressed spring, stripped shock on the bench and its bent... had to twist it to get it to go down and rebound fully and can see its bent, luckily the coilovers are in the way.

Today, we are stripping the offside to compare wishbones, need to order a new one or just a rear bush for wishbone if the ball joint isnt bent.

Nearside top mount felt a little rough when rotating the bearing, going to clean it out with wd40 and the air line then re-grease it... so it should be like new... gee-wiz this mechanic who is helping knows his stuff and my car (now named Daniella) will be going on his garage calendar with notes of all work done.

Hoping today is more productive as we have more time, may even strip the rear end as it all needs doing for coilovers.

Poly bushes in october just need to get measurments for the oem ones, if anyone can help or has done it already then feel free to reply.

Final jobs this year on the MJ will be downpipe, copper break lines (depending on how the oem ones look).

Next year, complete removal of egr (i mean 100%) so its not even bolted to the car anymore... and relocation of intercooler with 25% bigger intercooler and a hybrid turbo with a new tune and stainless exhaust)

Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175605.jpeg
Views:	22
Size:	58.6 KB
ID:	183484Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175823.jpeg
Views:	19
Size:	59.6 KB
ID:	183485Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175833.jpeg
Views:	20
Size:	72.7 KB
ID:	183486Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175848.jpeg
Views:	17
Size:	55.9 KB
ID:	183487Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175852.jpeg
Views:	17
Size:	41.6 KB
ID:	183489Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175859.jpeg
Views:	16
Size:	46.3 KB
ID:	183490Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175954.jpeg
Views:	20
Size:	99.3 KB
ID:	183491Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_175959.jpeg
Views:	18
Size:	72.9 KB
ID:	183492Attachment 1
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20170818_180007.jpeg
Views:	22
Size:	42.9 KB
ID:	183488  
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 19-08-2017   #18
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Weird... dunno where the picture of the teddy came from, its not even an image in my phone...
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 19-08-2017   #19
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

More progress ...
Click image for larger version

Name:	20170819_144727.jpeg
Views:	19
Size:	90.0 KB
ID:	183527Click image for larger version

Name:	20170819_144741.jpeg
Views:	19
Size:	68.2 KB
ID:	183528Click image for larger version

Name:	20170819_144749.jpeg
Views:	17
Size:	57.0 KB
ID:	183529Click image for larger version

Name:	20170819_144800.jpeg
Views:	20
Size:	63.6 KB
ID:	183530Click image for larger version

Name:	20170819_144804.jpeg
Views:	19
Size:	62.2 KB
ID:	183531Click image for larger version

Name:	20170819_150134.jpeg
Views:	22
Size:	104.2 KB
ID:	183532Click image for larger version

Name:	20170819_150140.jpeg
Views:	17
Size:	92.1 KB
ID:	183533
Likes varesecrazy liked this post
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 20-08-2017   #20
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Grimsby, England
Posts: 644
Thanks: 66
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Bugger, that's definitely got a curve to it, hasn't it!
__________________
Registered Alfaholic
Current cars - Stilo Abarth (let's not mention the Audi)
Previous: Fiats: Uno, Tipo, Brava (1.8 ELX), Marea (2.0 155); Alfas: 156 (1.8TS), 166 (3.0 V6), 156 GTA, 156 Sport (1.9 JTD M-Jet), 159 Lusso (1.9 JTDM), 147 Lusso (1.6TS)
Artermis is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 20-08-2017   #21
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Yup... to the eye its not noticeable until you twist it and see the difference... more work today!
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 20-08-2017   #22
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

So today... rear end lifted and on axel stands choked with wood, rest of suspension off... all for corners removed, shafts tied up, new pads arrived, waiting on discs and coilovers, also noticed rear pads are below acceptable limit but evenly worn so replacing with new discs and pads on friday... all coming along now
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport

Last edited by dtimmins1985; 20-08-2017 at 17:44.
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 22-08-2017   #23
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Grimsby, England
Posts: 644
Thanks: 66
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Quote Originally Posted by dtimmins1985 View Post
So today... rear end lifted and on axel stands choked with wood, rest of suspension off... all for corners removed, shafts tied up, new pads arrived, waiting on discs and coilovers, also noticed rear pads are below acceptable limit but evenly worn so replacing with new discs and pads on friday... all coming along now
At least the rears arent seized, just to add to your woes then mate!

Glad it's all coming along well for you

Have you got someone tee'd up to do the suspension setup work for you again? With coilovers ideally you want the corner weights balancing round the car for best setup.
__________________
Registered Alfaholic
Current cars - Stilo Abarth (let's not mention the Audi)
Previous: Fiats: Uno, Tipo, Brava (1.8 ELX), Marea (2.0 155); Alfas: 156 (1.8TS), 166 (3.0 V6), 156 GTA, 156 Sport (1.9 JTD M-Jet), 159 Lusso (1.9 JTDM), 147 Lusso (1.6TS)
Artermis is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 22-08-2017   #24
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Hey artermis.

Work stopped due to some other family issues.

Hopefully will be back in with it at somepoint today.

I have no idea about corner weights and setting it all up.

The instructions that came with the kit where very vague and it got me very worried, i need some help now on the rear end, i have fitted new springs and attached shocks to the rear beam.. in struggling with the top mounting inside the wheel arch.

There is two rubbers, i have no idea which way round they go... each side on the rear where not identical so someone has most likely worked on it before and not put it back together properly so now im stuck.

Attached is a pic of the two rubbers, one small one and one large one but where do they go?

Attachment 183570Click image for larger version

Name:	20170821_170001.jpeg
Views:	17
Size:	55.5 KB
ID:	183572Click image for larger version

Name:	20170821_165942.jpeg
Views:	16
Size:	68.7 KB
ID:	183573
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 22-08-2017   #25
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Okay so a few phone calls to fiat and suspersport... the rear end is done... would still like a 2nd opinion thought.

The biggest rubber whick is in the boot under the metal plate and bolt.

The smallest rubber whick is underneath meeting the other whick above.

I have nipped it all up tight then lowered the bottom, just need to remove the stands on rear then loosed and then nip & torque the lower nut to release strain on the bush.

BIG problem though... i set the front shocks to lowest ride hight (no need to compress spring to fit top mount) hey presto after 20mins scratching my head and not wanting to damage / scratch new springs... anyway, all done and ready to fit.. then bang! Hub carrier is too large my multijet sporting has abarth hubs!!!

FIAT why did u do this...

Im really fed up right now.. was so close to getting her back round to my house then this.

Apparantley, some jtd's have abarth hubs, same with the multijet

Two options, downgrade hubs to the normal ones (i dont want to. Fiat did it for a reason, more power and weight probably requires beefier hubs, carriers)... so either downgrade to fit my new shocks or refund or buy new front ones for the abarth spec...

Will update you all tomorrow once me and seller has spoken to supersport

By the way, the seller has been great, even offered to pay me the costs to downgrade the hubs or a full refund.
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 22-08-2017   #26
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Click image for larger version

Name:	20170822_155755.jpeg
Views:	15
Size:	67.9 KB
ID:	183604Click image for larger version

Name:	20170822_155800.jpeg
Views:	12
Size:	72.2 KB
ID:	183605Click image for larger version

Name:	20170822_155812.jpeg
Views:	14
Size:	61.0 KB
ID:	183606Click image for larger version

Name:	20170822_155830.jpeg
Views:	14
Size:	47.6 KB
ID:	183607Click image for larger version

Name:	20170822_155903.jpeg
Views:	12
Size:	64.2 KB
ID:	183608Click image for larger version

Name:	20170822_155917.jpeg
Views:	14
Size:	60.0 KB
ID:	183609Click image for larger version

Name:	20170822_181054.jpeg
Views:	15
Size:	65.0 KB
ID:	183610
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-08-2017   #27
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Grimsby, England
Posts: 644
Thanks: 66
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Blow out + new wheel trashed

Looks good mate! well played.
__________________
Registered Alfaholic
Current cars - Stilo Abarth (let's not mention the Audi)
Previous: Fiats: Uno, Tipo, Brava (1.8 ELX), Marea (2.0 155); Alfas: 156 (1.8TS), 166 (3.0 V6), 156 GTA, 156 Sport (1.9 JTD M-Jet), 159 Lusso (1.9 JTDM), 147 Lusso (1.6TS)
Artermis is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-08-2017   #28
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Downgrading hub carrier (from abarth to standard)

Hey up all,

So the coilovers i got don't fit on the front

My hubs carrier wont slot in to bolt up.
It appears that fiat have fitted the abarth ones.

Can they be downgraded.

I have rang a few places and no-one has done it.

It was a big thing on vw's and was a direct fit (or so i was told)

But.. im worried about the hub itself and the drive shaft ends... will they fit a smaller hub carrier as a direct fit and is it safe to do?

Currently waiting on emails from seller and supersport in germany, i may have to buy another front set of correct shocks if they will supply on there own.

This car keeps knocking me back with thing after thing, ive also just relocated home so the car is not round the corner from me now, its 5mile away, starting to feel like the old 1.2 i had.... arghhhhh....

Any help appreciated.

Kind regards,
Daniel.
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-08-2017   #29
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 925
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: Downgrading hub carrier (from abarth to standard)

Ok... so few phone calls later... my mechanic tells me its not a direct swap.

Might have to revert the suspension to factory for now, specialist has parts in stock that i need... just waiting on more emails from supersport, im hoping they can change them as technically they said they will fit and the paperwork also says this
__________________
Current car: 06 Fiat Stilo Sporting 150 Multijet
Past cars: 03 Stilo 1.2 Active 16v, 06 Focus 1.4 LS, 98 E36 323is, 97 Astra 1.6, 95 Astra 1.7 TDI, 95 Micra Super S, 96 Almera 1.6 GX, 94 Micra Super S, 97 Vectra 1.6 Envoy, 98 A4 1.8T Sport
dtimmins1985 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 23-08-2017   #30
Moderator
 
Davren's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London, UK.
Posts: 12,769
Thanks: 1356
Trader Rating: 5
Davren has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: Downgrading hub carrier (from abarth to standard)

Quote Originally Posted by dtimmins1985 View Post
So the coilovers i got don't fit on the front

My hubs carrier wont slot in to bolt up.
It appears that fiat have fitted the abarth ones.

Can they be downgraded.

I have rang a few places and no-one has done it.

But.. im worried about the hub itself and the drive shaft ends... will they fit a smaller hub carrier as a direct fit and is it safe to do?
Would definitely not recommend downgrading any suspension parts.

There are 3 different versions of the cast iron hub carrier. For the left one, part numbers are:

50701137 Only fitted to early cars with the 1.2 engine.

50701139 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, JTD 80, 90, 105 and 115.

50701141 JTD 126, 136, 140, 150 and 2.4 Abarth.

There may be a 3 digit casting number on your hub carrier that coincides with the last 3 digits of one of the above part numbers (as in my picture below) to confirm which hub carrier you have. My picture is of the right side, so ends with 140.

Not sure, but I think only early cars with the 1.2 engine had the narrow top mounting hub carrier. If that is the case, then it's somewhat disappointing that the supplier has sent you shock absorbers that are only suitable for the lower power and weight car. If they were supplied as a kit, then the springs will also be unsuitable for you higher power and weight car.

I've also read somewhere that the dimension between the 2 fixing holes on the top of the hub carrier and shock absorber can be different. I don't recall which of the 3 versions is different.
.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	PICT1662.JPG
Views:	11
Size:	634.7 KB
ID:	183624  
Likes dtimmins1985, Ralf S. liked this post
__________________
Stilo Parts For Sale: Connect Nav+ Map Discs - Wiper Motor (NEW) - JTD/JTDM Front Brake Discs (NEW)

For details, click here: http://www.fiatforum.com/classifieds...0&ppuser=48514

Last edited by Davren; 23-08-2017 at 15:42.
Davren is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
(G) I trashed the beast StevenkSengwayo Stilo 59 27-05-2008 14:21
(G) How do I get the most money when getting rid of a trashed car? sarahjane Punto (Mk2/2b) 11 07-04-2008 23:31
Fiat Panda Down The Burn Being TRASHED!! x Alex x Spotted / Was It You? 5 17-07-2006 00:45
Brava Brava GT - new pics **BUMBER TRASHED** Brava GT Members Motors 38 13-07-2004 02:46
Trashed my boot matty FIAT Boo Archives 4 03-10-2003 22:27