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Exclamation Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Following on from a very bad week with my Stilo (02, 2002) in for a phantom fault (Fuel pump replacement) which meant I had to hire a renalt clio 1.2 for a week .... I parked my car outside a mates house last night and went inside.

About 15 mins later someone knocked on the door to ask if my car was the "silver one which had rolled down the hill (30m) and into someones front garden"!!!!!!!! The hill was not very steep.

Luckily I had parked rear facing down hill so I got away with a cracked rear lower bumper, if I had parked front first I think I would have been picking headlights/bumper/engine/radiator out of someones front garden or calling the insurance company about a write-off. Will probably still cost 200+ to fix but, rather that than a front mangled stilo.

Had a bravo for 3 years and the handbrake was not amazing but the car never rolled away on me!! The wierd thing is that when you park it wont roll but then 10mins later its gone. Happened last week at another mates house, rolled 5 m, should have learnt my lesson then.

Hand brake and gear one for me from now on when parked on anything more steep than a snooker table.

Had mot done today so its not like the car was in bad shape, I guess bad this week was just a bad one.

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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Maybe it thinks its a Xantia?

Is it drum or disc rear brakes?
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Thinking on gear ratios, would a low or high gear be more effective?

Me thinking higher ones, as it would be less likely to turn engine.
I know its irrelevant but its late, im tired, and im wierd
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

1.8 Dynamic, discs all round!!!
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

why not try pulling the lever up a extra notch or two from now on? Cables do stretch, pads wear down, etc. hehe
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Quote Originally Posted by Fast Finger
Thinking on gear ratios, would a low or high gear be more effective?

Me thinking higher ones, as it would be less likely to turn engine.
I know its irrelevant but its late, im tired, and im wierd
couldn't agree more... plus hes right about leaving it in high gear
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

rembember this being mentioned on the xzara as well.was put down to the discs cooling and allowing the handrake on the discs to release.
personally always leave mine in gear with the handbrake.
does the stilo use a caliper on the discs for the handbrake?must admit i always liked the vauxhall system of a drum within the read disc for the hanbrake
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Stilo handbrake is on disc brakes so handbrake force reduces as disc cools and it's VERY hot if you've just stopped. ALWAYS leave it in gear and a LOW speed gear ie 1st or reverse for maximum engine resistance. Do it every time, without exception regardless of whether you're uphill or downhill.

Just something you have to get used to with discs all round

If facing uphill, park close to the kerb and turn the wheels away from the kerb. If facing downhill park close to the kerb and turn the wheels towards the kerb.

I've had to avoid 3 runaway vehicles in my driving career and it isn't funny. Last one knocked down a pedestrian before embedding itself in a traffic sign

One old lady here was sat on a park bench in a quiet park, (how safe is that?) not very as a runaway car from the top car park ran noiselessly down the hill, smashed through the bench and put her in hospital for months

ALWAYS LEAVE IT IN GEAR
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Quote Originally Posted by hafs
Following on from a very bad week with my Stilo (02, 2002) in for a phantom fault (Fuel pump replacement) which meant I had to hire a renalt clio 1.2 for a week .... I parked my car outside a mates house last night and went inside.

About 15 mins later someone knocked on the door to ask if my car was the "silver one which had rolled down the hill (30m) and into someones front garden"!!!!!!!! The hill was not very steep.

Luckily I had parked rear facing down hill so I got away with a cracked rear lower bumper, if I had parked front first I think I would have been picking headlights/bumper/engine/radiator out of someones front garden or calling the insurance company about a write-off. Will probably still cost 200+ to fix but, rather that than a front mangled stilo.

Had a bravo for 3 years and the handbrake was not amazing but the car never rolled away on me!! The wierd thing is that when you park it wont roll but then 10mins later its gone. Happened last week at another mates house, rolled 5 m, should have learnt my lesson then.

Hand brake and gear one for me from now on when parked on anything more steep than a snooker table.

Had mot done today so its not like the car was in bad shape, I guess bad this week was just a bad one.

hafs

mine has started doing this after i had new pads put on the back, always now left in gear!

adjusting the handbrake cable doesn't fix it either
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Wow, this is getting a bit scarey; i've always thought that it was extremely unlikely for ones care to roll downhill with the handbrake on but obviously i stand corrected; i know that from now on i ain't leaving it without a gear in!!!

PS; all car companies should do the same thing that they did in the old Saabs where you couldn't turn the car off unless you had a gear in.
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Quote Originally Posted by Deckchair5
One old lady here was sat on a park bench in a quiet park, (how safe is that?) not very as a runaway car from the top car park ran noiselessly down the hill, smashed through the bench and put her in hospital for months
Alfas (well the alfasud) was bad for this,discs coooled & theyt 'ran' away causing hundreds of 'mishaps',all had to be recalled for new front discs & calliers!
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

When a car is left on any sort of incline, the car should have the handbrake firmly on, then the car should be left in gear (the higher the better) then the car should also have the wheels turned into the curb, as if by some chance the above fail, then the car will turn into the curb with its front or rear wheels whilst rolling and come to a stop. I would rather this happened then roll down a hill coem to an abrupt painful stop
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

Yes I think the disc cooling action may have some effect...gear one and handbrake from now on.

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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

So what is it high or low gear??????
Also, i agree that a gear shold be left in but turning the wheel towards the curb is not a good idea because when the wheels are turned they stick out the side and if a somone hits the wheel it'll ruin you stearing and your alloys (believe me, it happened to my cousin)
The reason why I don't like to leave a gear in is that if you have it in and you get hit from the front or back it couls brake the gear box.....
so basicly i just leave gear in on slopes and not when the car is flat or flatish
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Re: Stilo:Use hand brake and gear 1 or else!!!

In some driving instruction tests you can be given a minor up here if you dont park up and turn into the curb. If a street is narrow you are given lea-way on your test but not much. It is seen that if you are sufficiently close to the curb you are posing no threat to passing motorists. The principle was divised on motorways as when you break down or stop on the hard shoulder for anyreason, you must turn your cars wheels away fro the path of oncoming or passing traffic. If a car is hit on a street or road then it is seen to cause more damageif your car careers into the road and persons on the pavement etc, have time to react rather drivers on roads swerving inot more oncoming traffic - what we a re taught up here anyway, regardless or curbed wheels or knocked out tracking
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