Re: Speakers

Hey Kev

Yeah it is a bit on the expensive side; the wierd thing is is that the loom for a MW Stilo is only £30; surely it would be longer too? .

Cool, good luck with it; it's an easy job, albeit the rear ones, but there is enough flexibility in the cards just to pull them forward; I'd order a few clips and holders just in case you lose / weaken any.

is that the upgraded fiat OEM Bose tweeter?

Big Black Stilo said:

is that the upgraded fiat OEM Bose tweeter?

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No, Clarion SRS 1725

So did you just cut out the grill from the fiat trim and push that through?

Im only asking as my drivers tweeter doesnt work and there is a slight crackle on the passenger one.

If its that easy I might do the same, how much were your tweeters if you dont mind me asking?

Big Black Stilo said:

So did you just cut out the grill from the fiat trim and push that through?

Im only asking as my drivers tweeter doesnt work and there is a slight crackle on the passenger one.

If its that easy I might do the same, how much were your tweeters if you dont mind me asking?

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The originals clip out, the new ones are much bigger and sit flush and need fixing into position. I used tacks of araldite to hold it in place then used a glue gun to seal it in place. These tweeters came with 6 1/2" speakers as part of a component set. £90 a side though. If youre going to do it you may as well get a decent set otherwise you could be chopping & changing for months.

I just need tweeters only, trip to ebay me thinks

Re: Another Newbie Stilo owner/ CD problem

Thanks everyone for the welcome. And hi fellow welshy.
The car was advertised on ebay about one month ago, but didnt meet the reserve. so I was a bit naughty and phoned him with a cash offer. he wanted £5500, his highest bid was £4500. so naturally I offerered him £5000, and a result.
The cd skips on all varieties of format or original albums. I was thinking about buying a cd changer, and maybe end of problem? Either way I got to be able to play music.
I callled round the dealers to buy the Bose speaker upgrade today but they said i would have to wait up to 6 weeks as they would come from italy, anybody got some for sale?

Cheers again everyone

Re: Another Newbie Stilo owner/ CD problem

Ha, I did my speakers, they came in 3 days (front) and rears took about 10 days

Yeah, I remember seeing it and thinking how mint it was, good move . There are a few CD autochangers on ebay at the moment for the Stilo too

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Do the bose upgrade speakers make much of a difference? or would i be better going to my locaol i.c.e. shop and having them put in a few expensive components?

Seen the changers on ebay, i'll put a bid in soon

Re: Another Newbie Stilo owner/ CD problem

Well they suit me down to the ground and I'm one for bass and clarity. I'm sure your local ICE specialist can sort something, but I'm one of those weirdos who likes everything to be original FIAT, so got the Bose ones (the rears fit perfectly, you dont even need to take the card off fully).

Your choice. Plus from what I remember they were on the cheap side too

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Yeah, that would have been my post . To be honest, I was considering subs & amps, but I'm into clarity and originality, so I'm happy .

6 weeks seems harsh, maybe I took FIAT UK's last remaining stocks . Although backorder doesn't always mean 6 weeks, should be no more than 2 at most.

Don't forget to take the speaker protectors off, I didn't, sounded awful until I realised what I'd done

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Yeah, felt like a right retard to be honest, and the texts to my bestmate along the lines of "These Bose speakers are a f*****g pile of w@nk!" came a few times, then my mistake, then embarrassement

Sound great with the Connect Nav+ unit in too, although the Sat Nav hasn't quite got as good a sound reproduction as my MP3 unit out of the Schumi had.

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What head unit you got then? what mp3 unit did the schumi have? Now im the retard coz i havent got the Stilo knowledge that you lot have? But I am a newbie

Re: Another Newbie Stilo owner/ CD problem

Lol, no worries! I now have Connect Nav+; well I'm in the process of installing it. Used to have the silver updated MP3 player out of the Schumi; it looks like a standard headunit, painted silver, but the updated Schumi (and I think X-Box) units were slightly higher powered and featured the "F-TRK" FastTrack function to select songs in folders.

Re: Speakers

Quite a lot of how good a speaker sounds depends on the installation. A good speaker installed badly will sound better than a bad speaker installed badly, but the same bad speaker installed well may sound better than the good speaker...

The basic rule is an 'infinite baffle' configuration being the best to strive for. This means having the speaker installed in a flat panel (baffle) with the sides extending forever in all directions.

Obviously this isn't possible, but the closest approximation is to have the speaker sealed in a large box. The best way to achieve this (within the confines of a car door) is to seal off all the holes in the door's metalwork using self-adhesive bitumen sheet (you can use other materials, such as 3mm MDF).

Most people use the bitumen sheet to deaden the door outer skin, which is OK but a separate issue again (and almost all cars already have some deadening installed for the outer skin to give a nice sound when closing the door, though you may wish to improve on it).

I remember coming up with the door-sealing idea by myself (did it to the front doors of my Alfa 164 when installing Infinity Kappa 6.5" speakers) but I recently read about it on http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/content.php?contentID=19

Note that my technique was slightly different (I used the bitumen sheet to cover the holes) but the theory and result are the same. I did a comparison test between one side (standard) and the other side (boxed-in) and the difference was surprising. One day I might do it to my Stilo, as the sound isn't particularly great... There's enough bass to feel, and quite a bit of crackly treble, but not much in between. Perhaps in the Stilo the sound is below the average new-car standard?

Usually standard-audio is carefully chosen to give maximum sound for the price, and you usually notice that aftermarket speakers are a little quieter and flat-sounding due to having less efficiency (best speakers or old paper-cone speakers are over 90dB/m, cheap speakers more like 87dB/m). You'll probably end up spending upwards of 60 pounds/pair to get speakers that sound any better than standard. Cone rigidity and magnet weight are both important, in my opinion... Careful you don't end up with inaccurate, 'booming' bass as well, that's easy to do (put in a 15" sub... )

-Alex

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Thanks for the reply Alex,

Ive removed my rear door speakers and ready to fit new ones, but ive come across bit of a prob. On the speakers themselves there is + and - (which i knew there was), The plug i removed from the oem speakers the two wires are, one is red/white and the other is grey/red, Does anybody know which of these are positive and which is negative,

Ive tried listening to the sound to see which sounds best but there doesnt seem to be much difference.

Anyone who knows can you please let me know.

Thanks

Kevin

Re: Speakers

here you go: https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo-styling/72703-upgrading-door-speakers-tweeters.html

havent upgraded the rear yet. i used pioneer separate two way and they sound good. just ask steve1219

Re: Speakers

You could just make life far easier for yourself and get the BOSE designed speakers direct from FIAT; direct replacement for all 6 so no drilling or rewiring required; plug and play .

And the Bass is much improved

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rroope thanks for that but ive alredy got the clarions to go in, Anway got the rear speakers done today, bit of a job having to remove the rear seats but got it done in about 3-4 hours, managed to drill holes for clarions quite easy, they sound far far better than the original stilo speakers, I nearly forgot what bass actually sounded like.

Next task is to put two new clarions into the front doors, Has anyone done this as im wondering do i just remove the front grills or do i have to remove the door skins (hope not but if i have too wont be a prob just more hassle)

If anyone can let me know that would be a good help,

Cheers

Kevin

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kevhky said:

rroope thanks for that but ive alredy got the clarions to go in, Anway got the rear speakers done today, bit of a job having to remove the rear seats but got it done in about 3-4 hours, managed to drill holes for clarions quite easy, they sound far far better than the original stilo speakers, I nearly forgot what bass actually sounded like.

Next task is to put two new clarions into the front doors, Has anyone done this as im wondering do i just remove the front grills or do i have to remove the door skins (hope not but if i have too wont be a prob just more hassle)

If anyone can let me know that would be a good help,

Cheers

Kevin

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if you read my post above i have replaced them.

yes you need to remove the full doorcard. which is a pain. be careful on the drivers side where the led is next to the lock pin. you can also butcher the existing speakers and turn them into mounts. hope that helps.