(T) Space Saver Spare Wheel

Terminal · 02-08-2005

I'e just paid £208 for a 24k service (with aircon), and I was told I need a new tyre n/s/r. When I Asked them to put on the spare they said I couldn't use it as is was a space saver. When I looked at both tyres they have the same figures on them, 195 65 15 91h. Am i being conned?
If I have a blowout can I use it? (if not, why is it there?)

joecinq · 02-08-2005

Space saver is usually limited to a certain speed (I think about 50 mph?) Also is only a temporary measure as a means to get home/ get to a tyre place.

Ben R · 02-08-2005

Do you have steel wheels or alloys? I f they're steel wheels the car will usually have a full size spare. If you've checked the sizes & they're the same with the same rating then I can't see why you can't use it.

So in that respect yes you're being conned, probably just a ploy to get you to spend more money with them.

Big Black Stilo · 02-08-2005

I have a full sized spare in mine- my ibiza had a space saver. My XC mountain bike has a wider rear tyre than the space saver!

StiloBoy · 04-08-2005

Sounds like your being conned! If its a standard steely then definately! However it is illegal to run about with the old wheel in your car with a bald tyre! It isn't however illegal to run with no spare! But the question is, how do you get the wheel home with an illegal tyre on it?!?!

NumanR · 08-08-2005

Not true regarding spare being illegal if bald. Regarding if you are being conned 80% of fiats come with space saver spares so it is probably an innocent mistake made by a receptionist rather than deliberatly con.

StiloBoy · 09-08-2005

If you have a bald tyre on or in your car in the eyes of the law you'll get busted! As for the spare not needing to have any tread! Check the VOSA MOT checks! If you have a spare it is checked, if it is bald your car will fail! If you have no spare tyre then it can't be tested and therefor passes!

NumanR · 09-08-2005

Stilo Boy as a VOSA examiner I can assure you that the spare tyre/wheel is NOT an MOT inspected item, therefore it cannot cause your vehicle to fail an MOT test. It is NOT a legal requirement to have a spare tyre neither must that tyre if carried BE legal. The police cannot prosecute you for having a defective spare tyre.

Stu DemonD · 09-08-2005

Here is the proof:

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_410.htm

Included is this:

Quote:

This inspection applies to
Tyres fitted to the road wheels only. The vehicle presenter should be informed when it is noticed that there is a defective tyre on a spare wheel

Therefore having a defective spare is not a failure, just an advisory comment.

Terminal · 10-08-2005

Thanks for all the info guys, have put the spare wheel on. the wheel is a full size spare according to a tyre shop. He said I could use old wheel if I need to because it has 2.8mm on it, and only need 1.6mm to be legal. Will still have it changed after hols anyway, as I do a quite a few long runs.

StiloBoy · 10-08-2005

Cool, always happy to be corrected by the experts... not the self appointed ones mind!

Mind you, as an advisory, that'll go on the new MOT won't it?

02-08-2005	#2
joecinq Get Your Own Title Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: north kent Posts: 2,578 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Space Saver Spare Wheel Space saver is usually limited to a certain speed (I think about 50 mph?) Also is only a temporary measure as a means to get home/ get to a tyre place. __________________ 3rd Fiat - luck as good as ever
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Big Black Stilo Get Your Own Title Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ooop North Posts: 4,782 Thanks: 57 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Space Saver Spare Wheel I have a full sized spare in mine- my ibiza had a space saver. My XC mountain bike has a wider rear tyre than the space saver! __________________ 2008 Fiat Bravo T-Jet 150 Sport 2014 Fiat 500 S Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Torino
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04-08-2005	#5
StiloBoy Get Your Own Title Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 2,591 Thanks: 36 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Space Saver Spare Wheel Sounds like your being conned! If its a standard steely then definately! However it is illegal to run about with the old wheel in your car with a bald tyre! It isn't however illegal to run with no spare! But the question is, how do you get the wheel home with an illegal tyre on it?!?! __________________ Ex- 53 plate, Stilo 3-door, Sassy grey, newly refurbished 17" Claw Alloys, Avon ZV5 tires, 1.2 Active
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09-08-2005	#7
StiloBoy Get Your Own Title Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 2,591 Thanks: 36 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Space Saver Spare Wheel If you have a bald tyre on or in your car in the eyes of the law you'll get busted! As for the spare not needing to have any tread! Check the VOSA MOT checks! If you have a spare it is checked, if it is bald your car will fail! If you have no spare tyre then it can't be tested and therefor passes! __________________ Ex- 53 plate, Stilo 3-door, Sassy grey, newly refurbished 17" Claw Alloys, Avon ZV5 tires, 1.2 Active
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09-08-2005	#9
Stu DemonD Super LOL! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 23,471 Thanks: 426 Trader Rating: 1	Re: Space Saver Spare Wheel Here is the proof: http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_410.htm Included is this: Quote: This inspection applies to Tyres fitted to the road wheels only. The vehicle presenter should be informed when it is noticed that there is a defective tyre on a spare wheel Therefore having a defective spare is not a failure, just an advisory comment. __________________ See you next Tuesday
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10-08-2005	#11
StiloBoy Get Your Own Title Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 2,591 Thanks: 36 Trader Rating: 0	Re: Space Saver Spare Wheel Cool, always happy to be corrected by the experts... not the self appointed ones mind! Mind you, as an advisory, that'll go on the new MOT won't it? __________________ Ex- 53 plate, Stilo 3-door, Sassy grey, newly refurbished 17" Claw Alloys, Avon ZV5 tires, 1.2 Active
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