Hello all

i have seen many new cars with LED sidelights and rear number plate lights. are they legal and will they pass the MOT?

great to hear from you guys!

cheers
Gareth

Hi,

Rear number plate LED should be legal, not so sure about sidelight, either way, im using LEDs for sidelight and for number plate.
I think only blue/green... etc LEDs are illegal to use for sidelights or for number plate.

If you, ever, decide to buy LEDs, make sure they have built in CAN-BUS resistors (more expensive), if not, you'll be annoyed by "beeep..beeep..beeep" sound indicating blown bulb.
Also cheap LEDs tend to "break" start blinking.

If factory fitted or 'E' marked theyre legal, if not 'E' marked then technically they're not, and 99.9% are not 'E' marked when it comes to retro fit LEDs.

In addition to this you'll have fun with the cars canbus system and the bulb warning system, personally I wouldn't bother even considering fitting them.

i had them for a few months..... then i swapped back, i would personally go for phillips ice blue bulbs no errors and look great.... i have smd's in my roof lights but will prob change those back soon

I have these:
5smd, white 6000k, with CAN-BUS resistors. For sidelights
3smd, same spec. For number plate.
And i use Ring automotive iceblue 3400k for dipped beams.

I like the looks. I've been using this setup for 6 months or so, never though about replacing them.

EDIT: pic of leds at night


For me, it looks a lot better, than regular yellow light.

Leds that i use:

Most Easterly Pandas said:

If factory fitted or 'E' marked theyre legal, if not 'E' marked then technically they're not, and 99.9% are not 'E' marked when it comes to retro fit LEDs.

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Just curious but when you say 'E' marked what do you mean? Is that a number stamped on them And would an MOT tester see it? Or is it a beam patern?

gadge said:

Just curious but when you say 'E' marked what do you mean? Is that a number stamped on them And would an MOT tester see it? Or is it a beam patern?

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Stamped on the bulb IIRC, its certification that the part is approved for use.

Funny coincidence I was going to order some today. Gonna go with these for the rear plate nights. Does anyone know what size/type the interior bulbs are? 501s etc?
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/290604295151?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

thanks for this, i know the stilo headlights are a bugger to change any ways so i might just do the number plate bulbs.

Studentas,

What size are the Rear Number Plate Festoon LED lights 31mm?

Thanks in advance

sharkytaylor said:

Studentas,

What size are the Rear Number Plate Festoon LED lights 31mm?

Thanks in advance

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On, website, where i bought them, it says 35-37mm.

It's alot easier than you think if you remove the front bumper

Anyone got any idea what type of bulbs and what size bulbs are in the interior lights? Want to swop them out for LED ones.

Cheers,

Toby

I tried some for interior and don't know if type I bought or oddity with can system but puddle lights stayed on even after car locked and didn't go out swapped back to normal bulbs and led a couple of times as I found it hard to believe but always same.
I think I tried on the ceiling unit each side , that was same ith light of the bulbs were always on although quite dim.
I suffered with battery drain so took no chances and left standard bulbs in.
I think numberplate light and maybe boot light were ok so stayed led I think.
cant remember sizes but I think I posted on here about them?
found post here
https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo/268290-interior-ceiling-led-lights-problem.html

i bought a couple with the resistor for can system for ceiling lights after i had the same problem as sussexa.... mine stayed on very dull but still stayed on.... happy to report that my new ones wih the resistor dont... so i will give the bulbs one last try, i will get all resisitor bulbs for all the lights inside and outside i can and try them out

rat20v said:

i bought a couple with the resistor for can system for ceiling lights after i had the same problem as sussexa.... mine stayed on very dull but still stayed on.... happy to report that my new ones wih the resistor dont... so i will give the bulbs one last try, i will get all resisitor bulbs for all the lights inside and outside i can and try them out

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Would you be able to post which ones you got for us pal?

Toby

sure buddy, ebay item number 281081770851these are the multiwagon though dude with skyroof i dunno if they differ from 3 door or 5 door, but t he front ceiling light is the same

Ok mate that's great, I have the sky roof so probably same on the back as well. Thanks mate

afternoon all... its been a while! between getting a new job, then working nights, quitting said job and night position and settling with a new employer working 4on 4off on days its been a little hard to think about the forum i figure its about time to come back to my old stomping ground.

just dragging this one up from a couple of years back.

im just wondering which LEDs people have put in and how they find them. the front bumper is coming off soon for Engine and AC issues so its the perfect time to upgrade/replace the bulbs in the front lights.

ive seen Osrams LEDriving range and whilst not emarked, i believe theyll give the closest look to incandeccent.

i am still a little perplexxed as to how the legalities of emarking are actually enforced. insurance companies dont seem to care about LEDs (particularly in the front sidelight and no.plate applications) The VOSA manual for cars basically says if it works as intended on a switch, they are the correct colour/position and are visible then its a pass. As far as i am aware the plod cant follow it up if it passes an MOT and is noted on the insurance documents.

if anyone knows any different then please reply... also those of you who do have LEDs in your front sidelights and number plates can you post pics up of on in the daytime and at dusk/night both with dipped beams on and off.

cheers

richydraper said:

As far as i am aware the plod cant follow it up if it passes an MOT and is noted on the insurance documents.

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Well techincally they can if they're anal enough, but most won't bother.

Insurance will only be happy with it if legal, which it isn't, but they assume that they are, nothing more. If you told them straight that they're not road legal then most would have issues with them!