Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

ok here goes ... I apologise for any fuzzy images, and if you want the hi-res versions then please PM me. I don't know how to embed images into the post so please just look to the attached images and I'll reference this in the walkthrough below.

First Step, "What do you get?"
You get an interface unit, which bridges the headunit and the ipod (Interface.JPG), it has two simple connectors at each end - one which goes to the CD changer (InttoCDChanger.JPG) and one which routes to the cradle (InttoCradle.JPG). The cradle you receive will depend on the iPOD/iPOD-Mini you own - I have a 4th gen iPOD, so I get the ActiveCradle (Cradle.JPG). Everything is pre-wired, no soldering, no pinout diagrams - all very simple.

Next Step, "Wire it all in"
This would be the same for installing a standard CD Changer, I'm no electrican or car installer, I promise this took 10 minutes. The first step is to open up the glove box, there are two screws which need to be removed to allow you to take out the backing in the glove box, this takes time and don't rip away at it - it will come out, it just needs a bit of twisting and squeezing here and there!! I have marked the screw points in red circles to show them up (OpenGB.JPG). Once you get it loose, this is what you'll be left with (GBminusCover.JPG)

Look to the right hand side of the glove box and you'll see a hole where Fiat run the cables to the back of the Head unit. This is where you'll run the cables - but you need to get the headunit out first, I was able to do this without disconnecting anything and there should be enough free cable to let the head unit drop to just above the gearbox. My headunit was not secured in place - I placed my fingers through the cable run and pushed the back of the unit forwards, at the same time I placed my right hand on the front right side of the unit and wiggled it out of place. If yours will not move then you have to unclck two screws on the front of the head unit (HU.jpg) these are marked in red circles. Since I didn't have to do it, then I'm afraid I don't know what tool is needed.

So far so good, with the head unit out, you simply need to plug into the CD changer interface port, this is a standard mini DIN connecter. The first picture (Without Connector.JPG) shows the unit without the cable connected I have highlighted the 8 pins you need to connect to. The cable will only go one way and it will clip into place, leaving I think 2 pins unconnected, here it is with the cable in (With Connector.JPG).

Still with me? Good ... Move the head unit back into place taking care with the cables. I ended up with excess cabling from the interface so I used the hole at the back of the glove box to feed the excess cable into (SpareCable.JPG).

I'm not keen on drilling holes so I fed the cable from the interface down the right hand side of the glove box - there's a gap and it will hold just fine (GBCableRoute.JPG). Then I simply moved the glove box back into place (Final Place.JPG). I don't want the iPOD on show, it's nice having it on charge and ready to go, so I leave it where it is. But if you want you can mount the iPOD in a number of locations, here it's shown over by the front screen (iPODinCradle.JPG)

That's it ... I think! All I need now is working firmware!
Chris

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

WOW!

Thankyou, not got time to look at these now BUT GREAT JOB THAT MAN

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

Thats a good write up there

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

That is excelent, nice work mate . I'll be ordering mine from Dension as soon as i save up some cash.
By the way; is it working ok???? Good sound???

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

Hold on there StiloMultiJet - although it's all wired in ... it's not working!! Dension are aware and I'm working with them on getting it sorted out. I promise to drop a note over when I have it all sorted.

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

Hi,

Question,

What do I need to buy? If it says Blaupunkt interface is that the one or must it say "Balupunkt for Sat Nav+" on it?

Can I also a big thanks for this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Steev

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

I have the one which says Blaupunkt on it, there is no mention of ConnectNav+ .. I think all that matters is the firmware on the unit itself, this is fully updateable by dropping files onto the iPOD itself ... when I get the new beta test code through then I'll drop a note into this thread.

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

Hi mate,

any update?

ie is it working yet?



Steev

Re: Where's the CDChanger Port on ConnectNav+?

nope - not a peep from them. I was going to chase them tomorrow.

Beta code has just been posted today. Here's the extract from the release notes .... I will apply the code tomorrow am, and let you know how I get on. I'm driving from London to Suffolk over the weekend so I should get a chance to test it.

History of Ice>Link Plus 2.10 firmwares
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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ICEV2 2c11 Beta release

Bug fixes:
- Better compability with Fiat Stilo (from HW v2.03)

Known Bugs:
- First magazine scan (CDC init.) could last about 3 minutes with ALFA 147
navigation headunits.

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ICEV2 2b11 Beta release

New features:
- Balupunkt Navigation Car Interface config
It uses "next track" for browsing and "prev track" for selecting

Bug fixes:
- Modified Blaupunkt interface to improve compatibility with Fiat navigation
and Blaupunkt DX-R navigation headunits

Known Bugs:
- First magazine scan (CDC init.) could last about 3 minutes with ALFA 147
navigation headunits.

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ICEV2 2a11 Beta release

New features:

Bug fixes:
- Modified Blaupunkt interface to improve compatibility with Fiat navigation
and Blaupunkt DX-R navigation headunits

Known Bugs:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ICEV2 2.10

New features:
- Simplified menu structure
* Access iPod UI
* Playlists
* AlbumPlay
* Setup ice>Link
* Language
* Charge
* Audio Level
* Disc change

- IMPORTANT NOTE! The 2.1x firmware serie not containes the BMW interface
There will be a special BMW release.

Bug fixes:
- Fixed menu access bug with using Connects2 adapters.
(Tested with Renault, Peugeot, Honda.)

Known Bugs:
- The car interfaces are the same as in 2.07 firmware version, exept SONY

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Hey Chris, where did you buy all the equipment from????
I'm going over to england in the summer and i'd rather get it where you got it (then i can be sure it'll work) rather than driving all the way to the south of Spain, getting back and finding out that the software hasn't been updated yet!!!!

(Sigh) more issues .... the code is available on http://support.dension.com/beta, the beta forums are on http://support.dension.com/cf

As directed I placed the code and the "update" file onto the ipod .... I've used this method to sucessfully update the connector before - albeit to code which doesn't support the ConnectNav+!!

Anyway, with all files in place the connector will not recognise this new firmware revision. From the beta forum's it's clear that I'm not the only one with this problem, so it should get sorted out soon.

Again - I'll keep you posted.
Chris

StiloMultiJet - you asked where I bought it from, I got it online from these guys.... www.ihavetohave.it (contact's name is David), and I bought the Dension IceLink Plus connector for the Fiat Blaupunkt(http://www.dension.com/icelink_info.htm).

Does that mean it has worked for some people and not for others??? How is that possible???
Also, how do i know what generation i-pod i have??? It hasn't got the buttons at the top (they're on the wheel), but does that make it a 3rd or 4th generation i-pod.

Thanx a bunch for allthe info!!!

Ive been looking forward to this update many thanks

In the end Ive opted for the ipod Blaupunkt kit. It should be with me tom so I will update then to let folk know how this unit performs cjeeers

Stev

If the buttons are on the wheel then you have a 4th gen ipod. Same as me.

lardarse - let me know how you get on ... at the end of the day all I want is the ipod connected, I don't care what's used to get it going!

Hi

This is what I took delivery of 10 mins ago...



Thanks to your help it was fitted (of sorts) in about 2 mins.

I powewred up and thinks looked very good indeed, the CDC option was now in black (wheras previously it had been greyed out) and when selected it said it was "scanning CDC".

Meanwhile at the other end the ipod was charging up nicely.

Then the bad news, it told me there were no CDs present

Im back in the house now as there is a slim chance it could be my fault

It looks as though it works via the playlists - a feature of the ipod Ive never really used so Im currently setting up 2 playlists then Im back out to try again.

For information its a 4.5 gen ipod photo

Steev

sorry to ask but did it work? and if so where did you get the adaptor from and how much?

i haven't got connect nav, but i might buy one and see if it works on the standard headunit

jud said:

sorry to ask but did it work? and if so where did you get the adaptor from and how much?

i haven't got connect nav, but i might buy one and see if it works on the standard headunit

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No its not working at the mo

That said it may not be compatible - it turns out the sat nav+ is made by Micky Mouse or some such. HOWEVER "normal" fiat stereos are made by Blaupunkt and as such are probably more likely to actually work.

If you are interested make me an offer

Stev

hi
the factory fit stereos are Visteon not blaupunkt,
they just have been adapted to take blaupunkt cd changers

did you take the fuse out of the unit?
(that or disconnect car the battery)
as you need to do this for the "changer" to be seen?

jud said:

hi
the factory fit stereos are Visteon not blaupunkt,
they just have been adapted to take blaupunkt cd changers

did you take the fuse out of the unit?
(that or disconnect car the battery)
as you need to do this for the "changer" to be seen?

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Hi just tried it again without the fuse and no apparent difference

It looks as though the unit has been seen as its now possible toselect the CDC and it "looks" for cds.

Steev