i used 2 have 17's on my saxo vtr (with 40 profile tyres), the handling was great for corners tho the tyres dragged the car all over the road. the car is lowered 60mm rear and 40mm front. i tend to go for image rather than performance tho! but i have changed to 15's now as the alloys were sha**ed, kept havin blow outs on the low pro's, and cudnt really afford decent alloys. found those 15's for 300.00 which werent 2 sad. not bothered 2 much by having 15's cos bought them really jus to look nice when i sell the car.