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Tuning Stilo 1.9 JTD 115 - Re-map or superchip?

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Tuning Stilo 1.9 JTD 115 - Re-map or superchip?

dan_1922

dan_1922

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Hi everyone, I have a bog-standard Stilo JTD 115, which I'm doing up due to having an accident prone wife!! :mad: lol and I have been searching all over the internet and read loads of forums regarding improving the performance of the car, I have seen a few sites offering the same power increase as the re-map sites for superchips around the £120 mark, but are they simply plug n play = instant power? or does it require a bit more? also are they reliable? the other thing is I'm struggling to find anywhere in my region that does re-mapping, I live right at the furthest part of West Wales :bang:
 
Thanks Shadeyman I have had a look at the site and they are priced at £95 now, still great value, and I will probably purchase one soon :)
 
Dan,

with the tuning boxes you can adjust them. The one i bought and pm'd you about made very little difference when i first put it on but following the instructions and making small adjustments at a time you increase the power and it really does go well now. kicks hard at 2k rpm and is great for blasting past traffic. The ItalianSpeed box looks neater than the other ones on ebay and i had great customer service when i couldn't understand the instructions - my stupidity.

Do a search though for remaps over tuning boxes and note that a few of the remap companies will travel to you.
 
Thanks Guys you have all been helpful, I think I will go with the tuning box though, although I seen a company called remapscience that do mobile tuning for £200, it's the wife's car, and I don't want to spend all my money on her car :p lol
 
I've had the remap, from 115 to 153 and 251 lbft of torque and it was a transformation. But I dont know about whether it was worth 300. I'd like to see the difference between my car and a tuning boxed car.
 
taylonm said:
I've had the remap, from 115 to 153 and 251 lbft of torque and it was a transformation. But I dont know about whether it was worth 300. I'd like to see the difference between my car and a tuning boxed car.
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lol If ur down west wales ever in the future I'll have a burn against you to find out ;)
 
I have read all the threads and decided to go with Angel Tuning at £250, come to you service. The e-mail I got on enquiry and the phone call was all very professional. I prefer the steath approach of the re-map versus the dongle of the tuning box.
 
Mark20VT said:
I have read all the threads and decided to go with Angel Tuning at £250, come to you service. The e-mail I got on enquiry and the phone call was all very professional. I prefer the steath approach of the re-map versus the dongle of the tuning box.
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For outright performance improvements and at least the possibility of improved mpg I'd say that's a good move (y)

The only advantage I can think for a simple tuning box is that it can at least be disabled or even physically removed completely fairly simply. Something that provides power on demand, via a switch say on the dash, would really impress me though as that way I'd drive with it turned OFF probably at least 95% of the time.
 
Mark20VT said:
I have read all the threads and decided to go with Angel Tuning at £250, come to you service. The e-mail I got on enquiry and the phone call was all very professional. I prefer the steath approach of the re-map versus the dongle of the tuning box.
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Better hope your emissions are ok the next time you take it for an MOT. A friend just lost a £300 remap because his were. :(

Not a problem with a tuning box, just unplug it. :D
 
johnson550 said:
there would be problem elsewhere.
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Thats what he thought.
Spent 3 weeks trying to find a solution.(i did recomend this forum to him)
Car seemed perfect but the emissions were high.
In the end he had to have the remap removed, instantly solved the problem. He now has a tuning box from TMC fitted. He says the power gains are not quite as good as the remap but as it only cost a third of the price and is easy to remove for the MOT he's very pleased with it.

He was told that remaps need to be tweaked over time, is that true? He had his less than a year.
 
Shadeyman said:
Thats what he thought.
Spent 3 weeks trying to find a solution.(i did recomend this forum to him)
Car seemed perfect but the emissions were high.
In the end he had to have the remap removed, instantly solved the problem. He now has a tuning box from TMC fitted. He says the power gains are not quite as good as the remap but as it only cost a third of the price and is easy to remove for the MOT he's very pleased with it.

He was told that remaps need to be tweaked over time, is that true? He had his less than a year.
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This is the cost of not going to a reputable mapping company and by the sound of it having a live map installed.

A generic map is far safer and will certainly last the life of the car (in fact it will still be good even if you change the engine).
 
I had a 'Dragon Performance' box installed prior to having a re-map. I would say it was a good improvement on standard and easy to fit etc. I decided to have a 'Celtic' remap done and was better overall compared to the box. Never had any mot issues with either box of re-map for emissions. Both produce more smoke than standard when pushed. Most noticable with re-map was the torque increase, especially in 5th on motorways etc, and mpg did improve. So if your decision is purely on cost then a box will be an great improvement. I suppose the boxes may have improved too in the 2 years since I had one. The car is still on the original clutch too at 131,000 miles so no issues there either!
 
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Shadeyman said:
He said it was done at his home by Angel Tuning just before xmas last year?

Whats the difference between a Live map and a Generic map?
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Something strange there then :confused: as mine has no trouble at all with emissions (and has an AT generic map). They give a full refund within 2 weeks but outside that I'm sure they would have been happy to install a lower performance version at no extra cost. :chin:


A generic map is based on a good running version of the same engine. You can still have different variants of the same map (such as one based on performance or economy etc.)

A live map is done in conjunction with a rolling road and requires a lot of skill. These types of maps can generate the highest possible gains but they also have the potential to create the greatest number of problems. This is particularly true when engines are mapped that already have existing defects. The map is also dynamic in the sense that if something which affects performance is changed then you should really have another mapping session.

Good generic maps are immune to these issues.
 
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