ok probably the most stupid question ever but ill ask anyway.....

my bro just completed an engine swap and now has a 2.5 ltr non turbo engine form a nissan skyline sitting in a garage,

what are the chances of getting it into a 1.2 2002 stiloa active with a 5 speed manual out of a punto

yes i know probably completely impossible but if i dont ask ill never know

You can put anything in anything given enough time resources and ability. A 2.5 Rear drive engine on a Punto gearbox mounted east west though which sounds like what you are trying to achieve. Not a cat in hells chance.

To fit some thing that extreme will require a rear wheel drive conversion complete with fabricated transmission tunnel, pick ups for the rear axle and suspension and god knows what else.

Just buy something fast to start with, will be cheaper in the long run.

How much do you really want the Skyline engine? In non-turbo form it's not really a million miles away in terms of performance to the 2.4 inline-5 and of course with that engine you can buy it with the car rather than pretty much rebuilding one around it

It's not impossible of course, but if I were doing something like that I'd want to go the full hog and get an RB26 in there

michaeljordan1635 said:

ok probably the most stupid question ever but ill ask anyway.....

my bro just completed an engine swap and now has a 2.5 ltr non turbo engine form a nissan skyline sitting in a garage,

what are the chances of getting it into a 1.2 2002 stiloa active with a 5 speed manual out of a punto

yes i know probably completely impossible but if i dont ask ill never know

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so you want to transplant a nissan 2.5 engine into a stilo
when you can go out and buy one with a 2.4 already fitted?

To put it into perspective, you could go out and buy a couple of fully functional Stilo Abarths, from members on here, which will both be vastly superior to what you seem to want to achieve - and yet you would have spent a mere pittance compared to your intended project's cost

so if i were planning to put a bigger engine what is the biggest and from what car could i get an engine into my fiat stilo without major modifications?

michaeljordan1635 said:

so if i were planning to put a bigger engine what is the biggest and from what car could i get an engine into my fiat stilo without major modifications?

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read my lips,theres no point
unless your car is unique then buy the fastest in the range
then you can look at going further
engine swaps are expensive,the have other costs like brake upgrades
thne you will get beaten on insurance
a 1.2 coverted to a 2.4 will be more expensive to insure than a factory Abarth

custard said:

read my lips,theres no point
unless your car is unique then buy the fastest in the range
then you can look at going further
engine swaps are expensive,the have other costs like brake upgrades
thne you will get beaten on insurance
a 1.2 coverted to a 2.4 will be more expensive to insure than a factory Abarth

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thanks. ok engine swap stupid question

how about getting the max out of the engine I have what are the first things to getting the most out of it

michaeljordan1635 said:

thanks. Ok engine swap stupid question

how about getting the max out of the engine i have what are the first things to getting the most out of it

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now your talking,however the same caveat applies
you need to balance the spend with gains and what you can get just buying a faster model

well full time student only spells one thing work with what you got , go my money to spend on what i have, not enough to start from scratch so i would like to try the first option.

i hoping the gains and amount spent will balance out, I have put quite a lot into my car already, yes i am kinda the boy racer type im afraid to say but i take pride in what i do and i want to do it right.

I paid 1400 euro for my fully nctd and taxed fiat stilo 2002 1.2.

Ive saved up money to put into the, new body kit, alloys, sound system,
now i just wanna get the most from under the hood so any advice would be great

Won't get a massive amount out the 1.2 really. I've done the exhaust (cat back) and induction and it's made it a bit more driveable and of course fun but not really added to the power much - would need it RR'd to be sure of course.

I've spent £400 on the above and could do other stuff like manifold, cams, remap (all increasingly expensive) and the like but I don't think I'd get much over 100hp out of it unless I turbo'd it. Really to get a fast car, you need a good base and a 1.2 really isn't it unfortunately.

Engine transplants are possible and it's great to think of the possibilities but unless you've got a car that suits a transplant - something like a Cento for example, you'll be paying a massive amount for the necessary alterations. It's not really been done with the Stilo apart from other larger Stilo engines being transplanted and even then it could be costly and fraught with issues mainly electrical.

The 1.2 Stilo's underrated, it's economical and the engine's actually pretty decent even if some feel it's a little overwhelmed by the size of the Stilo. Saying that, for it's size the Stilo doesn't actually weigh a heck of a lot compared to many modern motors. I'd personally say tune it a bit, enjoy the small performance gains with great economy and insurance and then when the time is right, get a bigger engined car

very well said!! :slayer:

ok so start with the small things, already has full cat back exhaust, next proper induction kit? next steps?

michaeljordan1635 said:

...next steps?

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You've been given a very clear message in this thread and I'm surprised you don't grasp it.

To even consider an engine/gearbox swap you must have considered this would set you back at least £1k (which is pure dream-world in connection with a Stilo as many have commented)

Surely the answer is a no brainer!!

Just go and buy an Abarth for the same money and then sell your 1.2 (in fact you may even persuade an Abarth owner to do a straight swap). There's every chance you could do this for next to nothing in terms of cost.

Of course, things will then get costlier as you're then have much higher insurance costs plus poor fuel economy but then that's a given the moment you discuss fitting bigger engines anyway. In fact, insurance will almost certainly be a lot lot lower on the Abarth than something you've heavily modded.

...or keep the 1.2

Your 1.2 will always be a slowish motor so you might as well just accept it. If you want to drive fast then learn to read the road, lay off the brakes and don't slow for the twisty stuff (but please don't kill yourself or anyone else based on my advice )

I wouldnt even consider putting cone filter induction on an N/A engine again. It just saps the torque no matter what an RR tells you. And i do have the abarth engine.

A remap should give you a small gain so lets say 10% so that will be about 8bhp. Thats not a lot for £200 but up to you.

Then you want too look into the handling of the car as i am sure you have noticed the amount of roll. So you need to be looking at bigger anti roll bars, upper and lower strut braces. If your bro has just done an engine swap could he possibly make these for you?

Ditch the body kit. It may look good but is probably considerably heavier than standard.

Then try and save weight. Every little helps on the 1.2 engine. The spare wheel and rear seats weigh around 100kg. When i took the whole of the rear interior out of my 1.6 Stilo i noticed a big gain in performance. I did the same with my 2.4 and it felt no different so i can only imagine how much that would help the 1.2 engine.

Other than that accept that you have a car with a small engine and upgrade when you can afford too.

I looked into an engine swap and the costs were massive. You need to consider that the chassis is set up for a small engine. Suspension alone would cost about €1000, braking €600 etc etc.
It was cheaper to go out and buy a 2.4 Limited Edition GP Schumacher, even though i had well over £1500 worth of mods on my car which sold for £3000