I have an 02 JTD and recently the turbo went,and I didnt want to splash out several hundred quid on a new one and then even more having it fitted. So I bought one from a breaker on ebay for £150.00 with a 30 day guarantee which I thought was good. It was fitted last Sunday by a mechanic, it all went well, and it started ok and ticked over for a while, but when he reversed it out of the workshop it went went bang damaging the engine.
Any ideas what sort of damage the turbo could do?? I dont think it is worth spending anymore money on it.

Cheers

Depends what caused the bang

Broken blades can a cause massive damage if drawn into the engine but can't see how that could happen if only revved lightly :chin:

Could have had something dropped into it before fitting which could have gone into the engine or damaged the blades which went into the engine. Not good news.

If you're t*****42 on ebay then the turbo has already done 104,000 miles, and that's just what the seller admits to.

I'm not sure what caused the bang, I'm only going on what the mechanic said what happened. He knows his turbos so I'm sure nothing fell in/off during the transplant.
How many miles are these turbos meant to do?, I think 100,000 miles is nothing these days. Ah well, I suppose I just have to break it or new engine....?

hi tex i have just purchased a stelo that needs a new turbo i have looked everyware same prices 500 600 but i have found a local turbo specialist that will sell you a reconditioned (basicaly new) with a year warranty for £300 +vat not a bad price if thats any help.

Life of a turbo very much depends on the owner. If you let the turbo get oil to it at start up and rev it gently for a few mins after starting and then letting the turbo spin down at the end of a run and idle for a few mins there is no reason why the turbo wont see out the life of the car.

Turbo's dont often fail but when they do it can normally be traced back to how they are treated by the owners. In 25 years of driving/operating tractors, trucks, cars and plant 99% of which had a turbo i have known 2 that have failed.

Thanks ric and muppet, I need to find out the mechanics verdict before buying a new turbo, as I don't know the extent of the damage to the engine.
Cheers..

When replacing the turbo, you have to remove the intercooler and pipes to clean out any fragments of broken impellar and the usually large quantity of oil in there. If you dont do this, you run the risk of sucking in the metal bits and also have the engine destroy itself by red lining and self destructing because it is running on engine oil and not diesel. Switching the key off will not stop it when it does this.
Also were you driving it for a while with a blown turbo. If so it was probably running with extremely low oil pressure and this can quickly cause damage to the engine.

Check exactly what work he did. He may have killed it, or you may have.

My JTD turbo lasted 104K miles. Got a reconditioned one off ebay for about £100. 20K miles later it is still going strong.

Also, The Multipla JTD uses the same turbo. Search by the Garrett part number, not the Fiat nimber.

John, The mechanic that fitted it did say it revved its nuts off and couldnt turn it off before dying, so now im thinking it wasnt cleaned properly before he fitted the replacement turbo. I did drive it the short distance home from work with the turbo gone, but at the time I was unaware that it was because of turbo failure.
The mechanic did have it running after fitting the replacment but it was only when he reversed it out of the workshop that it revved up and then died.
Probably need a new engine now so I will trawl the webternet for a few months....
Thanks for your advice mate.

Texastel said:

John, The mechanic that fitted it did say it revved its nuts off and couldnt turn it off before dying, so now im thinking it wasnt cleaned properly before he fitted the replacement turbo.

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He killed it then. He should fix it.
He obviously doesnt know what he is doing as cleaning the intercooler and pipes out is a must when changing a turbo, to avoid exactly the problem he has caused.

john55 said:

He killed it then. He should fix it.
He obviously doesnt know what he is doing as cleaning the intercooler and pipes out is a must when changing a turbo, to avoid exactly the problem he has caused.

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Yeah I agree.....
What Fiats share the same JTD engine as the Stilo? I'm thining of finding a Fiat donor/breaker for a complete engine swap. I need my car back in action.

JTD Engine Question?

What Fiats share the same JTD engine as the 115 Stilo?
Looking for a complete replacement engine for my car from a donor/breaker Fiat.
Cheers

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Texastel said:

What Fiats share the same JTD engine as the 115 Stilo?
Looking for a complete replacement engine for my car from a donor/breaker Fiat.
Cheers

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I'd like to know the answer to this question too. Plus what is the physical difference between say a 110 JTD and a 115 JTD ?

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robbie-rocket-pants said:

I'd like to know the answer to this question too. Plus what is the physical difference between say a 110 JTD and a 115 JTD ?

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I think they are the same. Maybe just an ECU map difference. I know the turbo on a Multipla 110 JTD is the same part as the Stilo 115 JTD turbo. The turbo I bought for mine was sold as being for a multipla but the have the same part number on them.

JTD 80 and JTD 115 have a number of differences though.

the 110 and the 115 i wouldnt think there would be much between them mabe diferent ecu timming slightly smaller pots.

thats bad news tex m8 if he didnt clean out all the pipes he is imcompitant.
if i was you and it had no knock before he got it then the blame lies with him m8.

i just got a stelo cheep with a broken turbo i did have to drive it home hope it will be ok as i have just got the turbo and bits for it.they should be here tomorow. i ended up paying £220 for the turbo oil vapour box and new large inlet pipe. the car had only done 40k 3month warranty so should be fine.

i removed all the pipes on mine and they will be cleaned before i put it all together new filters the lot personaly speaking i wouldnt just plonk any thing back together ever,not without a good clean and check.and i am no mechanic just tinker on like most of you.

Thanks John and ric

How about this,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fiat-stilo-51...ewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item414d0e0d35

Only wants 650 for it, Has engine, flog wheels for £100 wont stand you at much money then.

Muppet1 said:

How about this,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fiat-stilo-51-plate-JTD-DYMANIC-DAMAGED_W0QQitemZ280465640757QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item414d0e0d35

Only wants 650 for it, Has engine, flog wheels for £100 wont stand you at much money then.

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Thanks Muppet, I'll give the guy an email Thursday. Good mileage too, just have to hire a trailer to get it down to Kent...and then a proper mechanic to transplant the engine!
The alloys can go on my wifes Multipla.