Technical Timing belt interval

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Technical Timing belt interval

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I have a 53 reg Stilo 1.9 JTD MW. The car is on 57K miles, does anybody know what the cam belt change interval is on these?
 
Not the one in your handbook..this should be looked at ..at around 38K..:)
 
In the stilo manual it says 70k miles or 5 years but IIRC this has been revised to 3 years or 36k, the cam belt change is an absolute must do on the stilo if yours hasn't been changed get it done ASAP coz if it snaps you will be looking for a new engine :eek:

Karl
 
In the stilo manual it says 70k miles or 5 years but IIRC this has been revised to 3 years or 36k, the cam belt change is an absolute must do on the stilo if yours hasn't been changed get it done ASAP coz if it snaps you will be looking for a new engine :eek:

Karl

:yeahthat:..(y)
 
Even on original schedule it's overdue (over 5 years) so I'd get it done ASAP (y)

Might be worth looking at new water pump too (lots of threads on this topic)
 
For an oilburner thats a definate..dont even think about not changing the water pump..its a must do..

:yeahthat: My 1.9 MJet GPS is on 54,000 miles in 3 years and I'm pricing up the work, £266 for a Gates kit of belts and idlers with a QH water pump, that price is all in inc VAT. Needs to be done as its MoT time on Sept 29th and they run the engine up to max revs for a while and the testing station actually have a Warning sign up about the risk of cambelt failure! :eek:
 
:yeahthat: My 1.9 MJet GPS is on 54,000 miles in 3 years and I'm pricing up the work, £266 for a Gates kit of belts and idlers with a QH water pump, that price is all in inc VAT. Needs to be done as its MoT time on Sept 29th and they run the engine up to max revs for a while and the testing station actually have a Warning sign up about the risk of cambelt failure! :eek:

You didnt fancy the Dayco kit then.;)


http://www.daycoproducts.com/daycow...2e72bef69c816de0862571a5006a105d!OpenDocument
 
For an oilburner thats a definate..dont even think about not changing the water pump..its a must do..
Well my water pump is coming up to 7 years old and although you might just get a chance to say "I told you...." I'm determined you wont :p

I'm giving increasing attention to its lubrication ;)
 

I'm still open to suggestions Phil... the 3 places that quoted all use Gates kit.

That Dayco warranty looks useful, would that cover the engine if their kit failed in the warranty period?

Goddamit why are things so blo*dy awkward.... trouble is its simpler (but far more expensive!) to just take it to a dealer and have Fiat OE stuff fitted...

In your experience Phil.... anything bad to say about Gates kit based on actual 1st hand experience?
 
Well my water pump is coming up to 7 years old and although you might just get a chance to say "I told you...." I'm determined you wont :p

I'm giving increasing attention to its lubrication ;)

Please report back when the impeller drops off..:p:nerner:lol

Does this mean you have been a lazy boy with the belt change as well..where's my bat..:eek:
 
I'm still open to suggestions Phil... the 3 places that quoted all use Gates kit.

That Dayco warranty looks useful, would that cover the engine if their kit failed in the warranty period?

Goddamit why are things so blo*dy awkward.... trouble is its simpler (but far more expensive!) to just take it to a dealer and have Fiat OE stuff fitted...

In your experience Phil.... anything bad to say about Gates kit based on actual 1st hand experience?


Never used Gates sorry mate ..dayco warranty is really a gift horse..IYKWIM..on the stilo I used my own parts and dealer charged me £180 including gearbox oil change..and that was a gift horse as well I thought..:D dayco cover any damage done and fund all costs if their kits fail..not bad eh
 
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Paid area main dealer £150 (using full oem fitting kit) to do the job (on exactly 5 years) and they even washed the car for me :spin:

last time the dealer washed my car (after a half price mot..) i lost a "1" from "16V" now it reads "6V" :(

oh - fiat oem kit is about £90 pump is about £40 (and these are easy to fit.. especially on an oil burner)
 
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Thanks for replies so far. Got quote of £240 to replace timing belt from main dealer, (Arnold Clarks, Oldbury). Will try local garage to get a lower price.

Why replace the water pump at the same time as the timing belt? Is this prone to failure?
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Thanks for replies so far. Got quote of £240 to replace timing belt from main dealer, (Arnold Clarks, Oldbury). Will try local garage to get a lower price.

Why replace the water pump at the same time as the timing belt? Is this prone to failure?
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Yes... particularly on a diesel.
 
Why replace the water pump at the same time as the timing belt? Is this prone to failure?
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There have been several posts of failure.

  1. The blades can strip or the impeller loses drive which causes local overheating (should be survivable).
  2. The bearing itself can seize which in turn damages the timing belt (very bad :eek:)
In both cases I'd expect a 'tuned' driver (depends who's driving of course ;)) to be able to pick-up on issues before they become major but for only £40 it must be worth doing for piece of mind.

Also explains my comments about lubrication within the cooling system which I'd expect to reduce the risk (hopefully :))
 
I replaced the waterpump just last month on my 1.2 as though it's not technically necessary, I thought it prudent given the age over the mileage (nearly 6 years old and just passed 38.5k miles). Also, the coolant hadn't been changed in all the time I'd owned the car and given it was the blue coolant, I thought that could have had a detrimental affect on the pump. Plus as Argo says, it's not an expensive part to replace, but if it does go wrong then the damage won't lead to a small bill.

You can also save on labour costs if it's done at the same time as the cambelt I reckon (y)
 
There have been several posts of failure.

  1. The blades can strip or the impeller loses drive which causes local overheating (should be survivable).
  2. The bearing itself can seize which in turn damages the timing belt (very bad :eek:)
In both cases I'd expect a 'tuned' driver (depends who's driving of course ;)) to be able to pick-up on issues before they become major but for only £40 it must be worth doing for piece of mind.

Also explains my comments about lubrication within the cooling system which I'd expect to reduce the risk (hopefully :))

And...regular coolant changes not only lubricate the pump, but prevent internal corrosion of the coolant passages in the alloy head, which otherwise can fur up to the point where coolant flow is so impaired that head gaskets blow and heads warp...
 
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