Technical Stilo electrical problem + warm starting problem

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Technical Stilo electrical problem + warm starting problem

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Driving to work today and although i have the heater on, i get a cold blast of air across my neck...

Look across and the passenger side window is completely down... :bang:

Try to raise it via the control panel on drivers side and no response. Lean across and manage to raise via the passenger side. Happens several other times on the trip with varying results from the passenger and drivers side switches.

Get to work and i think its the drivers side control panel. Pop it out and start wiggling the wires... hear clicking from the passenger side. Not sure if its the control panel itself or the loom.... anyone had this before?

Also, notice when the car is warm it struggles to catch and this results in having to hold it for longer to get it to start... any ideas? Rarely happens when cold.

Ross
 
Is the lack of replies because no0one knows or because its just not that common a problem or cause no0one likes me :(

Only day i have for looking at this is thursday morning, so really looking for an idea on how to attack this!!

Ross
 
Starting sounds like typical crank sensor problem, have a search, there is a massive thread on it
 
Oh right.....

How difficult to replace? Any idea what the thread is called? Thanks.

Ross
 
Firstly check the plug situated on the front door frame..lift the round clip and pull ..check for bad connections and refit..that was my problem when it happened to me.. other than that ..when the appropriate door switch is pressed [left or right] the appropriate window motors receives power to the relevant door node which receives the command [open/close] from the switch on the door panel..the door node is protected by a special fuse housed in the under dash fuse unit and controlled by a relay also in the unit.so check these out and if no success is got then a diagnostic test of the circuit will be needed[I'm sure Decks can help you with how to do a circuit test] hope that help mate..(y)

Sorry for the late reply..:)
 
Firstly check the plug situated on the front door frame..lift the round clip and pull ..check for bad connections and refit..that was my problem when it happened to me.. other than that ..when the appropriate door switch is pressed [left or right] the appropriate window motors receives power to the relevant door node which receives the command [open/close] from the switch on the door panel..the door node is protected by a special fuse housed in the under dash fuse unit and controlled by a relay also in the unit.so check these out and if no success is got then a diagnostic test of the circuit will be needed[I'm sure Decks can help you with how to do a circuit test] hope that help mate..(y)

Sorry for the late reply..:)

Thanks dude.

Didnt happen today but no illumination on the control panel. I'm sure its the control panel...have ordered a replacement panel, and asked for wiring to be included so hopefully its one or the other. Seems like bad connection inside the unit or the wiring to be honest.

Ross
 
Disconnect battery and reset ecu works as well..:) if all this doesnt put you off stilo ownership nothing will and you are hard core member of the stilo massive..;)
 
Noone owns a fiat and expects it to work all the time... :D

Ross
 
Driving to work today and although i have the heater on, i get a cold blast of air across my neck...

Look across and the passenger side window is completely down... :bang:

Try to raise it via the control panel on drivers side and no response. Lean across and manage to raise via the passenger side. Happens several other times on the trip with varying results from the passenger and drivers side switches.

Get to work and i think its the drivers side control panel. Pop it out and start wiggling the wires... hear clicking from the passenger side. Not sure if its the control panel itself or the loom.... anyone had this before?

Also, notice when the car is warm it struggles to catch and this results in having to hold it for longer to get it to start... any ideas? Rarely happens when cold.

Ross

Easy fix mate, buy another sei or cinq. sell the stilo :) sorted!!!

Ming
 
check A pillar loom connector, not sure about crank sensor though more like voltage problem if you need to crank it longer?

Was checking it last night again, as it was playing up badly yesterday. Its definately the wiring as i've replaced the control unit. Moving the wiring causes the window to either click or actually move. I reckon the constant live for the illumination is touching the passenger side wires. So i'll probably need a new loom for that section. Anyone any idea of how long that section of wiring is?

As for cranking problem, i reckon its a fuel issue. Possibly dirty fuel filter.

Ross
 
just door loom, about £45 ish & not hard to fit.

Superb!!!

I'll strip the door down tommorow and have a check, but if i cant get one from a scrap car, i'll nab one from fiat!!

Thanks for your help people.

As for the starting problem... occasional "engine fault" message appearing at start up and then disappears immediately. Crank sensor looks like its on the way out :(

Ross
 
Nah. Drives perfectly and loads of good points about the car.Just searching for cranksensor info.

Ross
 
Searched under "crank sensor stilo" and found a few threads, morty mort's being the most useful.

Just to confirm, remove the lower right undertray and i should be able to see it? How easy is it to remove? Anyone done a guide? Or has it not been done because its so straight forward? :D

Anyone got an idea on how much they are new? Anything i need to be wary of on re-fitting? Also is there a haynes manual for the stilo? :D

Ross
 
Harsh rear ride???

Window problem fixed.

Blue connector into window motor (i presume the black box is that) was slightly loose (good call whoever said loose connection) which produced the whole "antipinch sensor fault" and the window fault plus illumination fault. So happy about that!!

Not had the engine fault since then either, so onto a winner!! :D

Replace the drop links and much quieter ride now!! :D

How harsh should the rear ride be? Feels quite solid over certain bumps and noisy aswell.

Ross
 
Re: Harsh rear ride???

Just to update this...

This morning i was trying to start the car and at least 10 secs went by without starting and the starter cranking.. then ASR failure appeared along with car security and loose connection error. Turned the ignition off then back on and it started first time... any clues?

Thanks.

Ross
 
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