Technical Dashboard dials all dead!

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Re: Stilo Instrument Panel not working!!!

Glad you got it working again. My brother suggested driving around with the fuse removed thinking it wouldn't register the distance travelled on the tachometer... Nice idea but i'd rather know how much fuel i have left and the speed i'm doing...

The problem may of just been that the contacts had frozen over.
 
Stilo Disco dashboard

Hey i'm new to all this and REALLY need some advice.

I have an issue with the dashboard - the whole thing is out - no lights - no speedo/petrol guage - NOTHING!
But everyday it comes on/off/on/off and it's really doing my head in.
It makes a strange whirring noise - even when there are no keys in the ignition lol! It's getting really irritating!

I'm wondering if anyone knows what this is? Really don't want to take it to a fiat garage as i just don't have the cash just now.

Any help is appreciated.
 
Had this problem a few months ago, two things fixed it and it has not returned.

1. Check the earth connection for the instruments, this is located on the off side inner front wing, near the cambelt cover, this often gets ignored to be cleaned and re greased. The earth wire is normally tightened with a nyloc nut.

2. If you have access to an Examiner, check for fault codes and delete them.
 
Happened to me two weeks ago. I was setting off to take the car (Multiwagon 2004 69k miles) in for a timing belt replacement and noticed the instrument cluster was dead. Asked the garage if they'd have a look. When I got the car back they said they couldn't find any fault codes on the computer and they'd checked all the relevant fuses.

I logged in here and checked out what everyone was advising. It seemed the cluster was dead after I'd gone through all the fuses again and taken the cluster out to check the connection.

My local dealer said they'd have a look at it if I paid them £60. I was tempted because I was driving a car with no instruments, but when I got home I found clusterrepairsuk through google. I emailed and they gave me a quote of something like £135 plus VAT.

Long and short is I sent it off last Thursday and got it back today after work. Connected it up and it's working fine with original mileage and so on. Had to reset date and time but well... :)

The final cost was £159.85 including VAT and courier. I had already paid Royal Mail £8.85 to send it next day guaranteed.

I think it's a pretty good deal compared to buying new, and I was nervous about buying from the scrappy and having to get the mileage reset.

Anyway, thought it was worth letting folks know. It's just another option.

Finally, I have absolutely nothing to do with cluster repairs uk. Do all your own research (fuses, connections etc) first, or get a used unit like others have done if you prefer. For all I know cluster repairs plugged it in and pressed a button and charged me £160 for it :eek: Also, their website says they give a two year guarantee but thre paperwork I got back today says 12 months.

Still happy though.:D
 
Hello, I've started to have this problem also today.
Recently took the wiper motor + assembly out to fix a broken push rod. Put it all back together, including the scuttle and rubber seal. Washed the car.
Now every time i start the car, 5 mins after, all lights in dash go out. Wirring noise, and they all come back.

Where to start? Earth problem? Relay + Fuse box under battery cover?

Car works perfectly but no display lights (even radio and heater lights down) and all instruments down to 0.000, can't see clock, but when it all comes back after 'Check OK' the clock was at the right time?

Can anyone help?

FiatFleetFamily - What did you do first to get dashboard back running?
 
Re: Stilo Instrument Panel not working!!!

Mike295

I have the same problem. Washed the car yesterday. This morning, cold, started car, 5 mins and all the lights went out. Noise, then all warning lights on, then 'Check OK' and back to normal. This happend 2 times just after leaving for work.
Happened again on way home.

Where shall i start, earth straps, fuses or see if any damp is in the large 'flux capacitor' sitting on top of the battery (i think it's called the D4 connector)

Can you help?
 
Re: Stilo Instrument Panel not working!!!

Navan,

Since my previous post, I've not had a single dash fault. This may possibly coincide with my eventual replacement of the battery. Certainly you can't go wrong by setting about cleaning all electrical connections. Those around the battery are the most obvious, but having looked at other threads, there are some other fairly major 'earth' connections that are worth investigating too.

I've had many Fiat's down the years and luckily, coming from an electrical background, I've manage to sort most faults. I'd love to say that I have a definitve answer for this fault, but I don't. Coincidently, many of my other 'spurious' dash warnings stopped after the battery replacement, so in my case that was probably the root cause.
 
Re: Stilo Instrument Panel not working!!!

Hi all I have similar problem.
Few day i have problem with dashboard go on and off.
But what happend to me, my stilo multiwagon jtd has nav+
and it is 2003 year and i have it last 2 year. I don't have code card for my connect nav+ and i have disconnected can nav+ from comp but when i want to change date and time i have to connect and i change time and date and seconds before it ask for code i press enter and change date and time, now my dashboard has reset date and time and i wanted to change that andi have found that my nav+ is no longer askking for master code. It is nice but my dash board little works and after some time it stop working. One thing is sure my car battery is in bad shape and need new one ( I know because if i let music go after i turn engine off after 30 min it is hard to start car. But what i don't know is where is grounding in engine. When my dashboard is off I can't setup time over my nav+.
 
Re: Stilo Instrument Panel not working!!!

Update.
Yesterday on my stilo multiwagon battery has finally died. I have put new one 72Ah ( 600A). Was original Fiat from 2003 ( 70Ah with 450A) When i changed battery every thing is working normally.
 
Re: Disco Dashboard

Have you taken out the dash gauges and checked its electrical connector at the rear? It's quite easy to do

Hi, my name is Thomas, I am now a new member and own a 06 Stilo 1.6 16v Active sport. I have had troubles with my dashboard for quite some time and until today put the blame on a electronics fault. My reason for this is when removing fuse F57 and placing it back all of the dash dials would reset.

However a problem that has accured is my total milage has now disapeared and no longer registers new miles but the trip computer does. My rev counter no longer works either even when replacing the fuse in question.

So to the point, does anyone belive that if I was to clean the connections in the above quote will fix my situation or should I just get a new cluster which I have quoted £350+ just for the cluster. If I can clean it can anyone provide me with some diagrams or methods as I am a complete novice when it comes to car electronics.

Many thanks,
thomas220284
 
Mine (54 JTD Multiwagon, 48K) has a problem that is identical to Imcharming's, down to the buzzing / whirring when no keys are in the ignition (during which the speedo and rev dials gently rise and fall!). Other things that happen are that the central interior light at the front stops working both as a courtesy light and when trying to switch it on - the central light at the back is OK at these times. On days like that, the dials go haywire when driving (0-6K revs several times a minute), the instrument lights go on and off with similar rapidity and accompanying whirring, and the dashboard clock either re-sets itself or the display remains static. At times like this, when starting the car, the dashboard is usually dead, other than two warning lights (see chicken_chau_mein).

The next day, though, there can be no sign of trouble whatsoever!

The problem isn't the instrument earth connection, and no fault codes are shown (checked by FIAT main dealer).

What makes sense to try first?
 
Lots of gauges going haywire, clocks,radio and ecu resetting, dashboard gauge backlights going off and dead dashboard apart from the safety warnings of airbag etc are a sure sign of voltage/ power loss. Stilo is programmed to shut down non essential items in event of low voltage

So I'd check battery and the battery and earth connections and dashboard gauge connections
 
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Seems a common problem, I had to have the complete pinnacle replaced by fiat luckly it was in warranty at a cost of £400 from dealer I wouldn'tbe to happy, touch wood been ok since.
 
Hi All,

So i've had the same problem with my car (1.2 52 plate). I work in central London so rarely drive the car during the week, and of late i've not needed the car during the weekends so its been stationary for about 4 weeks.

The care starts perfectly fine, and the majority of the electrics seem okay... heater, lights, indicators etc, but the dash is playing up. I've read through the thread and done the following:

1. swapped the battery today for a larger 72AH i think (its the largest that would fit)
2. Re seated the earth point near the bonnet stay after giving it a good clean out
3. Re-seated and brushed out all the socket type connections on the fuse panel around the battery
4. Checked the two fuses, F37 & F53, and they appear to be intact...

Nothing cleared the problem, but pulling fuses F37 and F53 caused various bits of the dash panel to light up, from fog lights, to left indicator etc.. but needles remained stationary.

I've not used contact cleaner yet as I don't have any at home, but will attempt to do so this weekend... but does anyone have any ideas what it could be? I'm assuming that with the cluster lighting up (albeit incorrectly) that the cluster is ok?? (please tell me if i'm being naive) Mileage on the car was around 68k at MOT a few months ago, so i'm not sure how easy it will be to get a cluster under this mileage...

Any help/pointers/guidance greatly appreciated.

Thanks

D.
 
Update -

1. Removed cluster - and cleaned contacts with cleaner.
2. Changed the two fuses

dash board powered up, got some movement on the needles, lots of errors etc. but i think the cluster is okay...(not sure how i quantify this though) New problems though:
- Both rear light clusters are dead, headlights and stop light above the parcel shelf are working, but rear indicators/fogs and brake lights aren't working.
- Interior lighting no longer working either,

Car still starts fine, but in its current state its not drivable so I'm not sure what other options are left to try so any help would be appreciated..
 
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Hi all,

I also need some opinion regarding faults with instrument cluster.

Ignition ON, everything lights up as supposed to. Engine on: LCD froze, saying "Checking" and showing clock. All dials are dead, only safety (airbag) light come on and off as supposed to. No light on the steering wheel or heat control panel.

Then i turned off the engine, frozen LCD still kept "saying" "Checking" and showing time.
I checked fuses, seemed normal, replaced them with spares to be sure. F53 fuse made to reset LCD. I checked the battery, it needed charge, so i replaced it with another one, fully charged, at first instrument cluster was dead, but soon started to show few warning lights:
Abs/battery/steering wheel/ "!" - i assume they all are CAN-Bus, well... electrical for sure :D.
Then i started to think this could be due damp. To be sure, i decided to go and see my friend, who could check for electrical problems, after a 15min drive, instrument cluster decided to work again. Everything worked just fine for a whole day, until this morning.

Everything started to repeat.
Ignition on - everything lights up.
Engine ON - instrument cluster - dead, LCD- frozen. No lights

Is that means i need to find a new cluster? Or maybe i could just check for loose connection or damp behind cluster?

Maybe there's something wrong with voltage?
 
No, it's a cluster fault, i can repair them for a fair price including total disassembly of the instrument cluster , reassembly and readjusting all dials.
Just send a PM when you're interested....
 
No, it's a cluster fault, i can repair them for a fair price including total disassembly of the instrument cluster , reassembly and readjusting all dials.
Just send a PM when you're interested....

I kinda, was waiting for someone to tell that its a cluster fault... looks like my Fiat Stilo really want a "present" for Christmas...

Yellowstilo, i would accept your offer, but i fear that only shipping from LTU to you, would be expensive.

In other note, if i wont be able to find anyone to fix my cluster, i will need a replacement. I know that new cluster must have a lower KM than mine, but is that all?
Can i use a new cluster from Diesel Stilo (nvm, i know now that diesel cars have different rmp), can i use from 1.2-1.8 petrol cars? is it matter if its from left or right handed car? (mines 1.6l 2002, left handed)

If my cluster is set on KM, and i buy a new cluster that is set on mileage (lower km converted from mileage) can i use it without a problems?

Thanks in advance.
 
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yes shipping cost from / to LTU will be rather expensive...
for me the mileage would be no issue as i could program any mileage you need but i don't know if you can find someone in your country who can offer the same services.
A Diesel cluster won't work - you will need a cluster with the same scaling (7000 rpm, 220/235 km/hr ) - i think any cluster of a 1.2 / 1.4 or 1.6 Stilo will work.
Right or left handed car would not matter but a right handed UK cluster will have mileage scaling instead of km's and standard mileage indication instead of km's so better but a left handed one.....
conversion of the setting from miles to km's would be possible.
 
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