my cars currently in a garage as the car wont go into gear due to selespeed fault.



heres some background see if you guys have any ideas,




no problems untill at the mot centre of all places, now i think when the tester slamed the bonnet i heard a warning beep,

next thing i know i had the return to dealer warning and car wont select any gear (engine will start however)

i left it about 10 mins, had a look about, checked the resovoir, then it started, no other faults!


then last night going over a speed bump, i got the gearbox warning again, but it was still drivasble and went after about 30 seconds.

later in the evening after being parked up for a while i went to start the car and same as before, no gear selection.

(no signs that the pump is priming upon opening the door BTW)

i left it a while, had a look about, opened the selespeed bottle, closed it, then it started!

after about 10 mins i had another look, now i think i placed my hand over the breather pipe/cap and pressed down while looking about, i then heard the fault ding, and error was back,

i then gave the resovioir a few subtle slaps :devil: and then i heard a warning beep, the dash said something like loose connection, i also noted the gear selection numbers in the bottom left was now replaced by the date, i gave it another slap :slayer: and the loose connection warning had gone, but the normal gearbox error still there.



any ideas?

could my actions of blocking breather pipe caused it to pack up?

possible loose connection? judging by the error on speed bump and me slapping it?

its at quite a good local garage but theyve never done a selespeed before.

Sorry to hear about your problems, krismc. Unfortunately the only way to really know what the problem with a Selespeed is, is to hook it up to Examiner. That way, you can get a readout of the fault code and find out if it's a pressure issue or just a sensor issue. There's quite a few possibilities and until you get it hooked upt to Examiner, I'm afraid that it's a bit of a guessing game.

I'll be honest, I think that most likely you've got a faulty pump meaning that there's no pressure to prime the system and hence no gear selection. Unless you've got a warranty, this is expensive £400 or so?

This is useful for diagnosing issues with the Selespeed...

http://homepage.mac.com/paul_denyer/selespeed/page46/page46.html

garage "think" it may be the selespeed ecu, theyre still looking however

krismc said:

garage "think" it may be the selespeed ecu, theyre still looking however

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Have they got an Fiat Examiner system at the garage?

Greggers said:

Have they got an Fiat Examiner system at the garage?

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not too sure, ill be asking that question tomorrow, i have a feeling they just said that as they didnt have time to look at it to be honest.

i cant help but feel it may be a loose connection based on it started 1st time when bonnet was slammed, and the next time it all started after going over some speed bumps.

just got my exhaust done yesterday too, sounds great

Greggers said:

Have they got an Fiat Examiner system at the garage?

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They seem a capable garage. Here's there website: www.vrsauto.co.uk

AnyOnce else feel it cod just be a loose connection by how the faults have occured or just me hoping LOL

Isn't there a cable with a connector that run either beneath the battery box or over it (depending on model of Stilo and/or if the mod has been carried out) that has something to do with the Selespeed?

Maybe this is loose?

Dogspods said:

Isn't there a cable with a connector that run either beneath the battery box or over it (depending on model of Stilo and/or if the mod has been carried out) that has something to do with the Selespeed?

Maybe this is loose?

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f*****g stupid garage, just rang for update and they cant get any codes from it, i said well yeah like i said before i got the car recovered to you you need fiat examineer, to which you replied yeah bring it down well have a look.


so anyway now gotta get it picked up and brought to a main dealer :bang:

if they think im paying for them having it since friday and guessing it needs a new ecu theyre having a laugh

Whereabouts are you?

Quite a few Fiat/Alfa specialists now have Examiner - so might be worth ringing around as labour rates will be a lot lower than main dealer.

Greggers said:

Whereabouts are you?

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im in coventry buddy

krismc said:

im in coventry buddy

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well i joined rac over weekend for me and mrs, as the recovery thats included with insurance was rubbish, the man scratched his head, no attempt to fix, could of been a simple fuse job for all he knows, and towed it off, where atleast rac etc will have a little look.

so im now off to take car out of current garage, push it down the hill, and call rac to get them to have a look and take it to fiat garage

quick update while i wait for rac, and see if this sheds any light, the notes from 1st garage says:

even speeds engadgement present
odd speed engagment
1773 (1,5,17,73) please refer to relevant technical manual present
pump relay present

possible bad connections to gearbox ecu or knackered gearbox ecu, fuses ok

Have you tried putting the ignition to MAR and then working your way up the gearbox? You should be able to select all of the gears from this position...

I had an odd gear engagement failure which turned out to be the odd gear sensor (strangely enough ). Might it be that?

note to self:

1: i am always right, (i believed it must be a loose connector or something)

note for others: never use vrs in coventry


update:

so after vrs giving the replies as per my last post and having it since friday, and them claiming they checked everything, i push my car out of there, down the hill, and call rac as if my car has just had the fault,

explained my fault just like i did in my 1st post of this thread,

the rac tech spends 2 mins with the car, finds that the earth point by the fuse box is poor, after a little fiddle he hears the pump come on, so removes the block connectors etc, cleans it all, greases it up, puts it back together, fault gone!

car fixed :slayer:


my £17 direct debit to rac is truly worth it this month :worship:

Wahey! Congratulations! :slayer: That's great news and thanks for posting your findings back on the forum - It's good to hear of another solution to Stilo problems

krismc said:

...the rac tech spends 2 mins with the car, finds that the earth point by the fuse box is poor, after a little fiddle he hears the pump come on, so removes the block connectors etc, cleans it all, greases it up, puts it back together, fault gone!...

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Dogspods said:

Isn't there a cable with a connector that run either beneath the battery box or over it (depending on model of Stilo and/or if the mod has been carried out) that has something to do with the Selespeed?

Maybe this is loose?

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posted this in another thread but ill put in here too:

when the rac tech first noticed the poor earth, when he moved it about it 1st caused an esp/asr fault. however when he had cleaned the connector box attached to the wing by battery try it cleared both selespeed fault and esp / asr fault.

so if anyone is having intermitent asr faults etc, possibly worse in damp conditions its worth giving that earth point a clean down and re tighten



dogspod:

i know the cable you mean buddy, they moved it on alfas too,

you were on the right track

krismc said:

posted this in another thread but ill put in here too:

when the rac tech first noticed the poor earth, when he moved it about it 1st caused an esp/asr fault. however when he had cleaned the connector box attached to the wing by battery try it cleared both selespeed fault and esp / asr fault.

so if anyone is having intermitent asr faults etc, possibly worse in damp conditions its worth giving that earth point a clean down and re tighten

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After swapping my battery over I got both the ESP/ASR fault (normal after disconnecting the battery) and a Gearbox Failure warning and unable to start the car - GULP! PANIC! :doh: - A frantic forum search and a few pm's later, an ECU reset cured the gearbox warning.