well today was the day i had my car booked to have the brakes upgraded. EBC 40 groove discs and redstuff pads were to be fitted all round along with stainless braided hoses and an engine an gearbox oil change.

so the garage stripped off the brakes only to find that the discs i supplied were too thick to fit the carriers! :swear

plus they had to charge me labour for doing so! :raspberry

so i rang up the brakes people and they say it looks as if they sent you the discs for the 150 jtd which are thicker. they argeed to change the discs and also said they'll come back to me on the garage labour charges.

if that wasnt enough to **** me off today, the car now hesitates. its random when it'll do it, but it loses all revs and feels like the engine is braking untill you lift off the accelerator then it goes only to repeat itself a few minutes later.

the only thing done to the engine was an oil change with castrol edge 0w-30.

any ideas :crying

the oil change thats killing my car!

Sounds like the crank sensor might be on the way out (perhaps it got a clout or someone caught the wiring during the oil change)

Nice oil by the way (mine needs changing this month)

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Argonought said:

(mine needs changing this month)

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If you do use proper oil you cheap skate..:tempt:

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0-30... is that going to be thick enough at operating temp?

Would have thought it would need 5w40

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OzMoSiS said:

argo, the crank sensor was changed last week. it just loses all power, slow quite quickly (dangerous!) then pics up again after you lift off.

no beeps or engine light ???

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Yeah, but might have been a wiring fault in the first place (so didn't really need a new sensor ) and someone has just disturbed the wiring.

Is it the same symptom's?

It's got to be connected with what's just been done somehow

Fault codes should prove it :chin:

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Hellcat said:

0-30... is that going to be thick enough at operating temp?

Would have thought it would need 5w40

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I'd agree (although it's a bit late now ), 5w40 (Selenia K) is what Selenia recommend for all Stilo petrols bar the 1.2 (10w40 Selenia 20K) and the 2.4 (10w60 Selenia Racing).

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Greggers said:

I'd agree (although it's a bit late now ), 5w40 (Selenia K) is what Selenia recommend for all Stilo petrols bar the 1.2 (10w40 Selenia 20K) and the 2.4 (10w60 Selenia Racing).

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I think the expression goes "The proof is in the eating!"

3 years with Castrol Edge 0W-30 for me :spin:

It's pretty much the most expensive oil on the goddamn planet so you don't really need to say much more - other than I wouldn't put it in an Abarth

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Argonought said:

I wouldn't put it in an Abarth

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Ha ha! Agreed!

I'm not sure what Oz is driving and if it's a 1.9, then the 0w30 is probably fine but certainly for the petrols, they recommend the higher viscosity at operating temperatures

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Greggers said:

Ha ha! Agreed!

I'm not sure what Oz is driving and if it's a 1.9, then the 0w30 is probably fine but certainly for the petrols, they recommend the higher viscosity at operating temperatures

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Yes; I agree there Greggers

Oil consumption on the JTD is just ridiculous. For three years I've NEVER topped it up - just a new fill of 0W-30 every year and that's it.

In fact the only time I lost any measurable amount of oil was when some clown didn't screw in the oil filter tight enough :tosser: and I noticed oil leaking from the undertray (that could have been very nasty )

Best thing of all is, whatever the outside temperature, you just never hear any startup clatter at all

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OzMoSiS said:

thanks davern, you're a star.

so from there its the 150 multijet thats shared with the abarth, not the normal jtd. the normal jtd (80 & 115) share their brakes with the 1.8.

so that clears that up, and they have sent the abarth spec ones thinking it was the same as the jtd (which i thought it was and the ebc catalogue says the same too).

argo, its not the crank sensor. when mine was gone the car wouldnt start at all. today though it starts and drives, but limps every now and then. i'll have a right go at them when the new brakes are delivered.

on my recipt, i have 3x "Engine oil valvoline maxlife semi syn" totalling £19.50 exc vat. is that the flush? because i supplied the castrol oil. one 4 litre and one 1 litre as the jtd takes 4.7 litres of oil

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Nope... that's a cheap motor oil http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/product_detail.asp?product=7

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so they nicked my 5 litres of castrol edge 0w-30 and put in that valvoline???

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OzMoSiS said:

so they nicked my 5 litres of castrol edge 0w-30 and put in that valvoline???

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Will nip down and recover it in the morning for Argo :devil:..they did you a favour..castrol oils are sticky and hang onto small particles that can do damage to your engine ..also its a good oil if you like black sludge ..:yuck: another bad trait with castrol oils..since owning fiats I have stuck with the selena and even if I changed the car to another brand tomorrow I would continue to use it..

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OzMoSiS said:

so they nicked my 5 litres of castrol edge 0w-30 and put in that valvoline???

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Oz, I'd go ballistic

Aside from the fact it's theft, if your engine is already used to a fully synthetic, then moving to a cheap semi will likely give the engine quite a shock.

Easy way to tell is check the dipstick. Castrol Edge 0W-30 should obviously be fairly clear if it's just been put in and also have a very slight green tint to it.

The oil change thats killing my car!

as some of you have read in my other thread (are these brake discs the same?) that I recently have had my oil changed and that my engine developed a fault straight after.

the fault is that the car, whilst driving, would suddenly lose all revs and power (causing the car to slow down cosiderably) and refuse to rev up again unless you take your foot off the accelerator then re-press. i have found that this happens most under light throttle.

took the car to the garage today and told them to run a diagnostics test. below are the results:

P0380: Glow plugs, circuit A malfunction. Present (i know about this, its a glow plug)

P0530: A/C coolant pressure sensor circuit malfunction. Intermittent.

P0110: Intake air temperature sensor circuit malfunction. Intermittent.

P0101: Mass/volume air flow sensor, range performance problem. Intermittent.

P1555: Brake accelerate signal implausible. Intermittent.

now the garage guy says this points to a faulty MAF sensor, and it was a coincedence that it failed at that time, as they are known to just suddenly fail.

so i disconnected the MAF and ran the car for a good 10 miles. guess what?

problem is STILL there, which i think rules out the faulty MAF.

Any ideas?

Cleaned the D4 connector yet? - see guides section.

would the D4 just randomly happen to mess up now??

everything was fine before the oil change

OzMoSiS said:

would the D4 just randomly happen to mess up now??

everything was fine before the oil change

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It could start to fail any time. If it has never been cleaned, then clean it. It is free and easy to do and solves a lot of random problems.
It could also be a sticking EGR or overboost valve, but you dont usually get the error codes with them.

Well, I'm sure you know how to check the MAF

Have you checked brake lights are good ?

would the brake switch cause it to loose all power and revs like that?

Charge your battert overnight. Don't quickcharge.

By the way, 0w30 sounds nordic.