hi,
could anyone tell me if i would fit an alternator from a 2.4 abarth of a jtd into my 1.6 dynamic?
i just basicly need my battery to be recharged more faster than it is being now because of lights dimming with every bass...
thanks.

They are all different and use different methods of attatchment [brackets]so I would think its a no to your question..

doh:bang:, any ideas how i could get less drain of the battery, except lowering the amps(bass) power??

Are you sure your battery is in good condition? You could fit a bigger size battery. 096 I believe is the biggest size that will fit in a standard battery tray. 74Ah, instead of the standard 44aH 063 battery that you probably have.

Cheapest way would to buy a battery charger and leave it plugged in over night if you can.

hm, i've changed mine to bosh about a year ago and its about 50aH if im right, but again will the 74aH one will be charged enough to keep my lights without dimming with every single push of a bass?

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doh:bang:, any ideas how i could get less drain of the battery, except lowering the amps(bass) power??

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You may need to try a power capacitor if your running amps and subs for which the alternator/battery cannot keep up with.

Your cars electrical system is simply not designed to push your subs to the limit. Your battery and alternator are only capable of delivering a constant stream of power, but for really thumping bass you need to deliver massive pulses of energy to your speakers.

To get around this you need to run the stream of power from your car into a reservoir and let your subs suck out all the power they need as they need it (your cars electrical system will fill the reservoir between the beats). This reservoir is know as a power capacitor.

Have a look at http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product_list/c_path/48_213/spd/power-capacitors.html

well i've got pioneer spl sub witch is 3kW(1rms), loudest.com two channel amp witch is 3kW(1rms) aswell and 1 Farad power cap, witch i know is not really enough, should be 1 Farad every 400W, but that would cost probably even more than a new and more powerfull alternator...
i've got wires witch are capable to deliver more than 3kW, so the wire'ing is good, any more ideas how to get less drain out of the battery are really welcome

If your present setup isn't enough to run your amps then a cap will do diddly squat. It will drain an already strained power source. I expect a JTD battery will help but I do believe the JTD alternator will fit a 1.6, can't remember where I read it, on here somewhere.

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loudest.com two channel amp witch is 3kW(1rms)

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hugely inefficient amp

i would upgrade all you main electrical wiring. search the net for "the big 3" and get that amp scoped properly at a decent audio place.

you're not running anything overly demanding so doing the above should sort you out. if it doesnt then get a nice big fat battery

if you fancy the power capacitor route, then i've got one in the classifides

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hugely inefficient amp

i would upgrade all you main electrical wiring. search the net for "the big 3" and get that amp scoped properly at a decent audio place.

you're not running anything overly demanding so doing the above should sort you out. if it doesnt then get a nice big fat battery

if you fancy the power capacitor route, then i've got one in the classifides

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way to go big 3 no big deal easy thing to do .....fact

Bloody hell... what batteries do they put in your cars? Mine is 78 Ah as far as I know, and that is standard on my 1.6. But ofcourse the nordic cars have different specs than other European countries. The Panda arrived in Norway 2 years later than the rest of Europe due to production of bigger alternators, coolant circuit and bigger heater.

A power capacitor will most likely wreck every voltage demands the Stilo's sensors need. Don't do it.

I think another amp will do the trick, or another speaker setup, to make it load other resistance.

M.

the good thing i've paid about 100 pounds for my amp, i suppose they were on a sale at that moment because it costs about 400 now, well they were at least... second thing it pums out my sub really well, so i wouldnt like to spend another god knows how much to get my bass playing again the thing with the wiring is that my wires are nowhere to find in here, i dont know how many AWG, but it's huge, it's about 2,5inch wide. about a year ago i fitted new bosh battery, but in time it started doing the same as the old one, so i thought i should get a new bigger alternator witch would do the trick...

1) DO the big 3
2) get the amp scoped

hopefully that should sort you out. total cost, about £20 - £40

will do thanks alot for help guys

3KW amp in a car. Why? On full power, it is drawing 250Amps peak, 83 amps RMS. No wonder everything is dimming. I don't even think a 120Amp JTD alternator will do much.
Really, if you don't want problems you need to completely separate the car and audio power supplies. i.e Seperate very big battery and seperate alternator to charge it, then you can put whatever audio system you like and not have any fear of causing other problems in the car.

Also, you are probably getting a drop of 0.5V or more when the load peaks, which you will be visible as dimming lights. This is due to the internal resistance of the battery and is what the capacitors are used to help overcome.
Wiring will make a huge difference to this installation. You should have as short a wires as possible, (Ideally the battery should be in the boot with the amp) with the capacitor placed as close to the amp as possible.

What diameter wires are you using? Bigger is always better, to reduce voltage drop.

Right Scrap the CAP its not 1f for every 400w RMS its more like every 40 LOL.
Upgrade the power wires for the car "Big Three" i would imagine that would give you a good extra couple of Volts but that wont solve your problem as the amp will just take the extra voltage and convert it into extra wattage.
The amp that you have probably isnt actually pushing out 3K though.
The alternator is an extremely expensive affair so unless you are prepared to do plenty of research and have loads of money i wouldnt bother.

Has anybody on here done the Big three if so could you let me know which wires you did and how you did it as i am about to embark on that journey and would like a couple of pointers as to which ones are of concern.

to be honest with you havent done the big three as i bought my first car and thought: it will be ok. but it wast, well the wires power wire is 6cm wide as i said, i've never seen something as huge in uk, even the lad who was putting out the wires were amazed with it...
well i was thinking to get second battery and place it in the boot, but it's not going to have a charge from anywhere, so over slight time it will become same as the cars...:bang:

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/value-split-charge-p-4394.html?cadid=21b8l1fv2edqhfiiv7olbti9b7

that should take care of your second battery charging. obviously your second battery is going to be a deep cycle leisure battery not just any old normal battery. even if you go this route,

YOU STILL HAVE TO DO THE BIG 3 UPGRADE!!!!

so get off your backside and do it, THEN if it doesnt sort you out think of adding that battery, but believe me, you'll start running into big money.

hopefully the wiring upgrade and scoping the amp will do the trick

That split relay kit wouldnt be big enough in the slightest.

Like he said above your looking into some pretty big $ to start adding a second Battery i would spend the money on a decent system.