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Sports cat - wont do any harm as the rest of your exhaust is free flowing.... isn't it?
Throttle body - hmmm. Depends what you actually end up doing to the top end of the engine methinks.

Other ideas? Yup. Supercharge it :cool:
 
you obviously have no idea who oldschool is, or what he does:p

What a stupid statement!

I have seen who oldschool is and works for, remaping is just the modern take on rejetting carbs and altering the ignition timing and advance curve on a good old mechanical distributor, ecus just make it more accurate.

All i am saying is the only real way to get proper power gains is to get more air and fuel into the combustion chamber by use of free flow filters and a less restrictive inlet combined with a cam with more duration and higher lift (but not too much), then getting it out of the combustion chamber as quickly as possible by using the above mentioned cam and a free flow exhaust with a decent tubular manifold. More air and fuel in = more power. That is the way a four stroke engine always has and always will work.

Off the shelf cam makers the likes of Piper, Kent, Crane, Cat and C & B have been making cams for year some of them have even been around since the 60s so they do know what they are doing

It will be the same with the exhaust manufacturers Such as janspeed to name one they have been in the game for a fair few years as well so they also know what they are doing.

Manifold design will always be a comprimise in design as there are lots of different variables to take into account when designing one for a road car as due to how the gas flows through them, they only realy have one point in the rev range where they work at their peak due to how the sound and pressure pulses interact with each other where the primary pipes join into the secondary pipes and collector. so idealy the manifold will be designed to be at its peak when the car is just over half way in the revs near or on peak torque, as this will make the car nice to drive and you would not be continually chasing the redline just to get power.

And dave i would like you to name these ten tuners that were stood in a circle having a chat.

Believe me, I've seen rival engine builders, and one thing they don't do is compare notes....


Yazza54 If you were going to overbore to 1.8 you would just be better off transplanting a full 1.8 into your car as it would be a good bit cheaper than buying new pistons and getting all the work done on the block. Plus supersprint do a very nice ss manifold fo rthe 1.8 and it looks very cool

Or you could just go for forced induction as again more air fuel in = more power.

You could also change from a single throttle bodie to four motorbike bodies from say a yamaha R1 and run on a custom mapped ecu from the likes of emerald to name one of the companies that have been around for a bit now and know their stuff.
 
The whole point of the debate in this thread all started with this statement was "do you intend to fit a 4 branch manifold in the future? if so then off the shelf cams will be no good for you."

I only stated that this in fact is not true i never said anything against remapping as i think the better control that remapping gives is great, and can give great results on some cars such as the mini one which has 90bhp but with a remap it can give about 130bhp, then there is the 1.2 stilo which has 80 bhp but a remap only gives upto 8 bhp. Not worth the cost it my opinnion

And as for oldschool saying "You will never get very good results with an aftermarket of the shelf cam and an aftermarket off the shelf manifold. This is fact."

Any tuner worth his salt would know that it is not true, because if this was the case you would not have the companies such as Piper, Kent, Janspeed and the various other reputable tuning part manufacturers would not have managed to go from humble beginnings to being the large successful companies that they are today.

I say what i see and if it offends then sorry, and no i do not know of what oldschool was involved in before he was into remapping but that has no relevance in this debate.
 
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Sports cat - wont do any harm as the rest of your exhaust is free flowing.... isn't it?
Throttle body - hmmm. Depends what you actually end up doing to the top end of the engine methinks.

Other ideas? Yup. Supercharge it :cool:

Erm the cat back has a centre section and a backbox...dunno how free flowing it is, was done by previous owner.

Ha the supercharger idea crossed my mind i know where to source a lot of them mini cooper s superchargers..anyone do a kit?.. I do want to do things less noticeable though, just a thought!
 
Strikes me that the easiest/subtle thing for you to do would be the cams and concentrating on the head work, should make an appreciable difference (y)

I'm hopeful that you'll find sufficient off the shelf tuning parts to get good results ;)
 
And as for oldschool saying "You will never get very good results with an aftermarket of the shelf cam and an aftermarket off the shelf manifold. This is fact."

It is a sweeping generalisation from Peter. However I fear that thee and me are (or seem to be) the only contributors to this thread who seem to feel that as sweeping generalisations go this one's a doozy :rolleyes:

Ho hum :(
 
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