Technical Parking Sensor Failure

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Technical Parking Sensor Failure

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Parking Sensor Failure - return to dealer

Hi all,

Anyone got a clue what the most likely cause of this is? There's no exterior damage I can see, so I guess it's loose wiring...

I can't find any reference in the manual or here (did search honest!), when the car does its check, this message flashes on the info screen and you then get a daft yellow icon with a P and what looks like a spring permanently lit up... going to speak to the local dealership tomorrow, but if anyone has any ideas let me know...

cheers
Jut
(missing me megane (y) )
 
Re: Parking Sensor Failure - return to dealer

I have found the cause and cure for a dodgy parking sensor. Don't wash them however gently with anything apart from pure mountain spring water rolled over the pure thighs of a bolivian virgin. Anything else as dangerous as say tap water could cause them to fall over faster than George Best at a happy hour.

I gave each sensor a quick rub and hey presto the faults cured (the manual says dont do this). The car shampoo must have put a film on the sensor which it was picking up.

p.s. trev - the megane does look good. it's just you have neither style nor taste. (y)

Jut
 


Does anyone know how to change a parking sensor?
Can I pull out the panel that houses the sensors?

Any words of advise would be greatly appreciated.
 
Ok;

1. Disconnect the parking sensor junction plug at the bottom of the bumper.
2. Remove the rear bumper (5 bolts along the top, then unscrew and peel back carpet wheelarch liners - remove the bolt and screw on each side, then remove the 4 bolts underneath, then pull the bumper off).
3. Disconnect the faulty sensor.
4. Twist the sensor clockwise and pull it up.

Refitting is the reverse of above - obviously twisting the sensor anti-clockwise.

Mod EDIT: Moved to Technical section (y)
 
I ordered the sensor (£55) which will be in stock on tuesday.

If one sensor is defective should the other 3 work?

Again thanks for the info everone!
 
I ordered the sensor (£55) which will be in stock on tuesday.

If one sensor is defective should the other 3 work?

Again thanks for the info everone!

If one sensor is defective I expect it'll knock the whole system out, and generate the "Parking Sensor Failure" error message.
 
Stilo Parking Sensor Failure

I've had an intermittent - now continuous - warning that the Parking Sensor has failed on my Stilo 1.6 dynamic (52 plate). I've released & reconnected the plugs under the bumper and behind the rear lamp cluster, but no improvement. Probably another poor Fiat connector problem, but I would be grateful if anyone can suggest anything else to try.
 
Re: Stilo Parking Sensor Failure

So you've done the main one at the bottom?

It looks like you're going to have to take the bumper off and have a look from there.
 
Re: Stilo Parking Sensor Failure

Thanks for your quick reply Rich.
The connector I released is the black one clipped to the body under the off side of the bumper - is that the one? I have also released/reconnected the orange & black connectors from what looks like a node thingy (black box) behind the rear offside lamp cluster. That was covered in black duct tape which made me suspicious that it had already caused problems.
If I have to look at the individual sensors, is the bumper easy to get off?
Is this a common fault?
Thanks terrym
 
Re: Stilo Parking Sensor Failure

The best thing to do is wait for the fault, then with the ignition still running, try and find the fault (i.e. wiggle the wires etc) - the fault analysis on the parking sensors is live, so if the fault goes you know where the problem is!

Get what I mean?
 
Re: Stilo Parking Sensor Failure

Had this covered under warranty on my 02 abarth. First got and intermitent dead tone, then all the time. They played around with the connectors and got it all working again for about a week. Then admitted they would have to change all the sensors. Took an age to get done as they had to get them painted, all worked fine after that. (y)
 
Reverse Parking Sensor Failure

Hi guys,
i have a problem with my reverse sensor 2.4 abarth
when i select reverse mirror moves wiper comes on reverse lights on=all ok!
but get a FLASHING WARNING ON DASH and a constant beep as if something is right behind the car,
could this be a sensor or a wireing problem
HELP PLS ITS DRIVING ME INSANE:bang:
 
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Re: Reverse Parking Sensor Failure

defo parking sensor failure. If you've got the lcd colur matrix display between your speedo, it would tell you that its the parking sensor has failed.

One of mine has disintigrated, i think its around £10 for a new antennae. and mine is making the same beeps as yours!
 
Re: Reverse Parking Sensor Failure

could potentially be dirt / contaminant on the bumper also - i have problems getting out of the drive these mornings as roaddirt confuses the sensors!

(hope for you it is this rather than system failure!)
 
Parking Sensor Failure - Help

My car says that i have a parking sensor failure when i start my car and every time i put it into reverse it just constently beeps, any ideas????? also my temp reader seems to be about 8 degrees out, any ideas on that too?????

sedge
 
re: Parking Sensor Failure - Help

I would try disconnecting each sensor it turn to see which is faulty, take it out clean it put it back in and see what happens.
Temp reader are you on about the sensor in the wing mirrors for outside air temp ? I'm not sure what it does apart from give the temp and the ice warning, and maybe controls the air con
 
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re: Parking Sensor Failure - Help

A) Temp sensor provides input for climate air conditioning (not manual), otherwise it simply gives you ice warnings and, obviously, a reading of the outside temperature.. To the best of my knowledge, the sensor can not be purchased separately; you might need to get the whole mirror assembly (this will not be cheap). If replacement is not an option, you could try to clean the sensor and check the wiring and plug (i.e. higher resistance due to a corroded connection would definitely cause the reading to be off). Use search for further information regarding sensor location and removal (fortunately I’ve not had to do this yet.. thus I cannot give you any further instructions).

B) Parking system clearly has a sensor, wiring, or some other failure.. Use search for more detailed instructions but I will give you some tips and possible solutions below:

1) Plugs and wiring:

1.1) Main sensor plug:
This has a history of getting damp/dirt in it and thus no signal gets from the sensors to the control unit.. The plug is located in the lower part of the bumper (right side if you are facing the rear) and can be reached through an access hole in the lower section of the bumper.. Try unplugging it and spraying contact cleaner on the contacts and plugging it in/out a few times.. If that solves it... spray some WD40 on the plug to keep the moisture out (at least temporarily) and tuck it into a section of the bumper that would keep it dry and away from the access hole (i.e. dirt/water normally gets in when the plug, which is free to move, gets near the access whole) you could also try wrapping it securely with cling film and tape (but ensure water cannot get in i.e. use WD40 on the inner layers).

1.2) Control unit and plugs:
Assuming you have managed to get you boot damp (i.e. due to water being spilled or a leak via the tailgate (i.e. the fog lights.. and yes you would be hard pressed to notice it) the moisture could have corroded the control unit connections and/or the unit itself. You could try contact cleaner on the plugs as advised in 1.1 (but the unit cannot be diagnosed without special equipment.. this I wall explain below at some point). Likewise the control unit is located on the right side of the car (if you are facing the boot). Open the little access panel (as you would to change a bulb in the tail light) and you would find a little black box mounted to the body of the car under (though a bit to the right really) the tail light.. You can’t miss it.. Have a poke about.. It would have 2 cables running through it. This also gets you to a temporary solution.. If you unplug these cables you would, effectively, disconnect the unit.. Although this would still give you a warning message every time you start the car (and would show a warning triangle on the dash at all times) it would stop buzzing when you are reversing (the good news is.. because you get buzzing the control unit is still able to send out a signal.. thus the chances are it is operating).

2) Sensor failure (there are 4). There could be many reasons for these to fail but the two primary causes are physical damage (i.e. due to impact) and dirt..

2.1) How dirt can cause sensor failure:
The sensors have 2 breathing holes to let moisture out.. Unfortunately, a power washer can drive dirt into the sensors via these holes causing them to malfunction. You could try to remove the sensor/s and, using a compressed air canister, try to blow the dirt out via the breathing holes (you could also try to wash the dirt out.. but let the sensors dry for 24 hours before you put them back into the car.. and be aware that the likelihood of failure is high.. as these sensors were not designed to function in an aquatic environment.. it’s a car not a sub :ROFLMAO:).

2.2) Physical damage or failure:
As you could have guessed (and why not?!) the sensors cannot be taken apart and checked/cleaned, thus if one or more have failed (either due to 2.1 or any other cause) it has to be replaced (do ensure that there is power i.e. the failure is not due to plugs/connections). There is a very easy quick way to find a dead sensor (note that a sensor clogged with dirt would not be detected this way.. although going back to dirt.. taping the sensor might move/dislodge the dirt a bit and the system might start working again, although only temporarily). So how can you detect a (completely) dead sensor? Well (with engine off as you don’t want to smash into the car/cat/wall/mother in law behind you) put the key to mil position (to power on all the electrical systems) and put it in reverse gear (do ensure that the hand brake is on and that some one is in the vehicle to stop passers by getting in and driving off while you are crouching behind the vehicle.. trust me on this one.. it may look fine while you are crouching with the car there.. but if it were to drive off while you are still couching.. it would look a bit odd..). Once you have managed the above, walk to the rear of the car and bend down (sticking you bum out is optional.. only do so if you’re a girl) now put your ear to each sensor in turn.. If the sensor is powered on you would hear clicks (kind of like a sonar) at regular intervals.. if you find one that doesn’t click.. that’s you problem. If none click, then either you can not hear well at that frequency or the problem is with the wiring or control unit.

3) Controller failure:
This is a smart node and if the above fails this is the likely cause.. How can you fix this problem?! Replace the controller (you don’t want to know how much it would cost). Can you find out what the problem is specifically? Yes you can.. take it to your nearest fiat authorized (or otherwise) garage that has a fiat diagnoster.. as this would have the ability to interface with all your smart nodes and it would also be able to tell you what sort of a fault you have (it can even tell you which sensor has failed :eek:)

Other things to note:
a) Unlike aftermarket systems, fiat controller would not work without all 4 sensors present and functioning (so no.. you cannot find a faulty sensor by unplugging them one at a time..)
b) Sensors are quite cheap.. about £35
c) Diagnostics should also be about £35
d) Controllers are best obtained second hand
e) Sensors are best obtained new (as second hand would likely have the same problem i.e. damage, dirt, etc.)
f) Hope you not sorry you’ve asked… and that you’ve managed to read this through to the end (understanding is a different issue all together..)
 
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