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yampug
08-05-2008
Not going to go into to much detail as if you need step by step details of this you really shouldn't be messing about with it, but here's some basic guidelines and pics.<br />
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1. disconnect all rear brake lines<br />
2. unbolt rear subframe<br />
3. remove centre of rubber bushes i found
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

I've posted the following which may (or may not) be of some assistance to any Member contemplating taking this job on.

Thanks to Yampug for the initial post and to my Brother for his tools, technical know how and time in undertaking a pig of a job. Well Done Charlie!!

Started the job late on Friday afternoon. The sub frame came off without any major issues. My advice is not to start the job on a Saturday morning as if you encounter problems and need any additional Fiat bits, sods law will be that it will be around noon time, just as your Fiat Dealers are closing up for the weekend!

So now we turn to the removal of the old bushes. We burnt out the innards with a welding torch which just left the metal sleeve well and truly ensconced in the sub frame. We put a single saw cut through the bush then managed to hammer it out using a progression of chisels to ‘peel it back’ and that took some doing. Having reflected for a while, we changed tack for the second sleeve. We sawed through in two places, at 5 & 7 o’clock. We then chiselled out this portion of the sleeve, which peeled back just like the old sardine tin – we found this was much easier.

Crucial bit next was to examine the sub frame mounting for any nicks or scrapes; carefully cleaning up with emery cloth –if you don’t you’ll make it even harder for yourself.

We were fortunate enough to have a bench mounted bearing press. To make life easier, we decided that we would remove both rear disc and stub axle assemblies to make the sub frame more manoeuvrable in offering it up to the press.

Disaster struck with three out of eight of the stub axle assembly bolts sheering off, despite them being drowned in WD40! Nothing that a bit of heat from the welding gear wouldn’t resolve, however slight problem in that the plastic ABS sensors inconveniently mounted midway between the studs and held in by a corroded small allen bolt and much crud caused further delay.

Due to the sensors being approx 30 each (and supplied to order) we soaked them in WD40 overnight. We were lucky in that we were able to get them out eventually, put the multimeter across them and they had survived the ordeal. With them out of the way, we were able to turn up the heat on the bolts and were able to eventually drift them out.

Onto the fitting of the new bushes. We spotted an issue in that there was a potential for the bearing press to pop out the rubber innards, as the central part of the bush would take all the pressure. We overcame this by visiting a decent auto spares shop and purchasing two 65mm ” drive sockets at 15 each (apparently used for wheel bearing nuts on Ford Transits) The outer circumference of these sockets was an exact match for the outer circumference of the bushes. Hence we were able to press in the new bushes (sandwiched between these sockets) into the sub frame quickly and accurately.

The new stub axle bolts (replaced the lot including the ABS sensor allen bolts ordered in on the Monday) were picked up on the Wednesday and we reassembled that evening. This was relatively straightforward, apart from the ABS sensor electrical connectors, which just would not reconnect. It turned out that the female part of the connecter had a corrugated rubber seal which distorts over time. Once removed, they clicked back in, reinforced with insulation tape. 10-05pm on the Wednesday night and job finally done.

Main points you should consider if contemplating taking this on: -
  • Don’t even think about it unless you have a decent toolkit – you’ll need slightly more than your average Halfords socket set.
  • Try to carry out the job at the start of a good few days when you don’t need the car, giving you time to get things sorted and your hands on parts if it does go bent.
  • Mention is made in an earlier post of a garage charging 350 to do the job – bite their hand off!!
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

Followed your advice and instructions and found to be very good, only bit I would be concerned about for other readers is the removal and replacemnet of the bushes. Getting them out no bother, use hack saw -cut of ends,remove rubber then cut out a strip to allow the bush to collapse. Getting them back in is another matter, I was lucky enough to borrow a press from one of the guys at my local garage - still a bit of a job, managed to get the axle off and back on and car running in about 6 hours, before I started I had two new brake pipes made up knowing that the quickest and easiest way to get the old ones off was to cut them. Thanks for all the good advice it was very good and gave me a good insight to what I was taking on.
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

glad my guide is proving usefull to people on the forum saving people money and hopefully keeping stilo multiwagons on the road.
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

Quote Originally Posted by Davren View Post
Company in Italy selling a tool for fitting the bushes, but knowing the amount of pressure required to fit them, the threaded rod doesn't look strong enough to me.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260353453532&ssPa geName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016

eBay Item number: 260353453532

Go direct. 150 Euros including P&P.
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

Replaced my bushes yesterday. To see how I did it and photo's check out the thread below.
https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo/2489...-bushes-9.html
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Hi,
I have a 5 door stilo and the rear bushes went on it .
I contacted my local fiat garage to see if they had a tool that I could rent off them but they didnt.
They used a bearing press and a lot of luck to do the job.
I went through the usual process , cutting out the old bush and trying not to make too big a hash out of it.
When it came to refitting the new bush, I made a tool not unlike the Italian tool shown, using a piece of 10mm threaded bar and some 65mm pipe from a local engineering works.
Fitting the first bush was hell, but them I contacted a friend who is a mechanical genius and I dont use this term lightly!!
He told me to put the bush into the freezer for 2-3 hours and have enerything ready to put the bush straight in.
I did so and fitted the second bush within ten minutes, this is about all the time that you have before the bush heats up again and swells to its full size.
This has to be the tip of 2011 as it works for bearings as well.
Hope that this is of help to someone else as it saved me a lot of hassle.
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

I was on eper and can't find part number, they have whole frame. In Serbia it only can be found not originals made by Akron.
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

Fiat part number for the rear bush is 50706505.
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

Hi, Just looking at this guide as my daughter's Stilo has worn bushes and I was just checking the difficulty etc. Seems OK as I've done plenty of this type of thing before but just checking Eper and the bush is no longer listed as a separate item in the rear suspension pages. There are plenty on ebay and some stating that they are heavy duty etc. Anyone had any recent experience with bushes they can share please?
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

Which version of ePER were you looking at?

They were still shown as available from Fiat in ePER version 80 (November 2013).
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Re: Mutliwagon rear suspension bushes

Why must the brakes need bleeding to change bushes??
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