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Old 27-03-2012   #16
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Re: Punto Confusion

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its not really a point of argument though i'm not calling it the punto classic, it Is the 'Punto Classic' so anyone who owns a punto classic is not going to know what a punto mk1 or mk2 means and to be honest the MK1 or mk2 labels where never official in the eyes of fiat where as punto classic is.

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but if you have a classic section everyone in the uk is going to think its for the mk1


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If the new Punto is just an Evo - then we can make a forum and just alias it to a current one.
we wont know until they start going wrong, when the mk2b came out everyone thought it was only the looks that changed, wasn't till later that we found out lots of the electrical system was different
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Re: Punto Confusion

Just to add while we're talking about section naming..

In the guides:
Bravo Guides - can we change the pic to a Bravo?
Grande Punto Guides - Can we change the pic to a GP? (Or change the name to Grande Punto/Evo Guides too?)

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Re: Punto Confusion

So mk1 and mk2/mk2b and classic together in one forum as they are at the moment plus (if classic and mk1 are together in the same forum it really doesn't matter if it confuses people)

Combine punto grande evo and the new 2012 punto into another forum mechanically these cars are very similar with the only real difference being as new engine options were introduce.

In the days of canbus, electronically all these cars since about 1999 are the same with the odd little year specific quirks

The new 2012 punto has an update to the Tomtom blue and me interface, some external styling changes and some new seat fabrics it really is just a slightly updated evo, fiat just wanted to get back to just 'punto' as a name funnily enough because it was getting confusing
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Re: Punto Confusion

The Grande Punto forum is too well established for a merge, however, if the Evo and the 2012 really are so similiar, we could do:

Grande Punto
Punto (Evo + 2012)
Punto Classic (mk1/mk2)
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Re: Punto Confusion

could the 3 be all labeled as punto e.g.
Punto Classic mk1 mk2
Punto Evo
Punto Grande

this would move them all together in the listing an minimise people keep posting in the wrong section
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Re: Punto Confusion

Thinking about this - we're going to keep hitting this issue.

Renaming a forum is actually a *massive* deal, as all the Google links will then be wrong and it will take a couple of weeks to right itself (during which time, the forum will be dropped).

I'm thinking to start using slugs instead - in that, the forum name can be different to the URL. And in the future, we change the forum name, it doesn't matter - as the links won't change.

The thing is though, we know what the mk1 mk2 and mk2b - BUT - what is a mk3, is that a Grande? So a mk4 is an Evo, with a mk5 being this years? Or is an Evo a different name, so not a mk - which makes the 2012 a mk4??

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Re: Punto Confusion

Ok, see the post I just put in the Panda section about this issue - https://www.fiatforum.com/panda/2945...ml#post2991115

So no need to change the current punto url (very good, as it's massively linked in google).
Leave the Grande as it is.
Then then Punto Evo and new Punto 2012 become "/punto-g3" (as the 2012 is just a facelift of the evo?)
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Re: Punto Confusion

Hmm, apparently the new one is a Gen 6!!

G1 = mk1
G2 = mk2, mk3
G3 = Grande
G4 = ???
G5 = Evo??
G6 = 2012
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Re: Punto Confusion

Grande had S1 and S2
No idea what the differences were though!
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Re: Punto Confusion

Seems to depend on which site you read - I've got others listing the latest one as the g5 - which does tally everything up properly at least...
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The point I was trying to originally make is that the confusion comes from people constantly posting in the 'punto' section when they have a 'grande punto' basically they see punto and post there

The new model is basically an evo so in all fairness they belong together, but that means you'll have 3 punto sections one of which is steperated from the others (hence the confusion) what happens in the future when the current punto style comes to an end and fiat launch a completly new model? Is there then a 4th punto section?

The model list is pretty long as it is it can't help to keep adding to it but would be beneficial to try an reduce it now rather than in the future.

At the very least the forum software must allow you to reorder the forums so that grande appears beside the others in the list?

The more forums the more confusion and the more moderation required.

It's always better to be proactive about things which could become potentially huge problems in the future
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Re: Punto Confusion

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The point I was trying to originally make is that the confusion comes from people constantly posting in the 'punto' section when they have a 'grande punto' basically they see punto and post there
I don't think that's such a big problem, at least not one the mod team have been alerted about before.

But yes, if a new Punto is released, then a MK6 or whatever forum would be made. The model list length doesn't really matter - we have as many forums as there are models ....
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I don't think that's such a big problem, at least not one the mod team have been alerted about before.
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i seem to remember moving loads
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