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There are seperate sections on the site to talk about ICE, Bodywork, Satellite Navigation, Security etc. but there's no specific section for those that like to tune/modify their cars to swop idea's, info and show off their creations. I know many on here(myself included) consider Blue Neons and dustbin sized exhaust pipes a waste of time but many others like these things so how about we give them an area to play in, might visit it myself if some serious tuners use the area(remaps, turbo upgrades etc.). Many modifications are universal and not model specific so I think a Tuning & Modifying section would be benificial to like minded members.

Do you think the site should have a Tuning & Modifying section.

1. Yes
2. No
3. Don't Care.
 
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dave said:
even the site owner don't user the search on here https://www.fiatforum.com/ducato/270596-model-dimensions.html?p=2766969

so why do all the staff expect members to not only use it but spend ages using it over many sections
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Not sure why me asking for *internal* dimensions of a Ducato (which aren't in the user guide) have anything to do with this .... anyway....

The short of the story is - we had this section before, pretty much every mod was against it as users were just getting confused and it was decided we should have the "Tuning" prefix instead.....

If you are going to search the "Tuning" forum (for example) - the same thing can be done, by going to advanced search, selecting the "Tuning" prefix and entering your keywords.

If it really is generic, then "Tech Talk" would seem to be the most popular section for that.
 
MrMigs08 said:
Hmm, i believe i can solve this issue for everyone!

I for one am in agreement about the Tuning and Modifying section! However not to the way that people would think so!.

I'm quite familliar with the split layout on Micra.org.uk, we have General Chat, Tuning, Body and Aesthetics, and another section.

Since Fiatforum is setup so nicely with a prefixing system, and that people don't really want to specify the different filters,

Why not just link a Hyperlinked piece of text under the model of car called Tuning and Modifying which automatically calls on the tuning prefix as well as sets a very broad setting for search parameters so that the forum/next page calls up all threads with associated with the currect car you have selected the hyperlink from? can anyone see what i mean here?

Don't know if this is plain stupid, but trying to make it as easy and clean as possible :p.
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Not quite sure what you mean here? "Broad Search Parameters" means what? :)
 
dave said:
The following errors occurred with your search:
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
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The same result would have happened if everything was in one forum then ;)

The following link will give you all Tuning threads across all forums - here

Which is ultimately what the Tuning forum would be?
 
Shadeyman said:
If the Fiat Forum Prefix and Search function work so well why do Fiat owners find it necessary to look on other sites for the info they require?
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If you can answer why, that would be an explanation.
How many of the 101000 FF members are using the other sites instead of the tuning prefix? Bearing in mind if you look at the last 1000 tuning prefix threads only takes you back 14 months. :rolleyes:
 
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Having a little look back at mod discussions on it - the main problem seemed to be that most people just didnt know what was supposed to go in it. And users were complaining there were too many sections.

It was then decided to make the Tuning prefix.

I'm still looking into this "Master Forum" addon though, which would/should allow the merging (whilst actually keeping the threads separate)
 
ben said:
The same result would have happened if everything was in one forum then ;)

The following link will give you all Tuning threads across all forums - here

Which is ultimately what the Tuning forum would be?
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have you clicked that and see how many have the wrong prefix and naff all to do with tuning? good system:rolleyes:

ben said:
Not sure why me asking for *internal* dimensions of a Ducato (which aren't in the user guide) have anything to do with this .... anyway....
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the point was not even you use search so a section to scroll through and manually search works better

ben said:
The short of the story is - we had this section before, pretty much every mod was against it as users were just getting confused and it was decided we should have the "Tuning" prefix instead.....
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so the fact that more members want it means nothing because a few mods don't want to do any work helping people use it means we don't get it. mods who have no use for it because they don't even change their own oil let alone do any tuning.

when i first joined FF its was pretty much most of the active members were into doing their own tuning and modifying, it was their knowledge that made FF what it was as they had good knowledge of how things came to bits and went back together.
 
dave said:
have you clicked that and see how many have the wrong prefix and naff all to do with tuning? good system:rolleyes:
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You're proving our point .... no one really knew what Tuning was anyway. A Tuning forum would just be full of the same (as it was)


dave said:
the point was not even you use search so a section to scroll through and manually search works better
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I did - there was no answer, so I posted the question .....


dave said:
so the fact that more members want it means nothing because a few mods don't want to do any work helping people use it means we don't get it. mods who have no use for it because they don't even change their own oil let alone do any tuning.
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Whilst being a rebel and anarchy was popular in the 80s.. now the world has grown up a bit, I suggest you do too.

I've seen this thread, put across the reasons why it didn't work - and then also offered a possible solution. Until then, there's nothing else to discuss.

The fact that we tried this forum before and it didn't work, despite everyone's best intentions - kinda points to it not being such a good idea. Or at least, it's a nice idea, but didn't work in practise....
 
ben said:
The short of the story is - we had this section before, pretty much every mod was against it as users were just getting confused and it was decided we should have the "Tuning" prefix instead.....
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If you remove the MODs from the voting there's an overwhelming vote for a Tuning section by normal members.

There's nothing confusing about having all tuning related threads in one section, works very well on other sites. In fact it works so well that many Fiat owners use those other sites instead of the Fiat Forum.

Having a Tuning section here would hopfully bring those knowledgeable members here and as a result bring even more new members looking to tune their Fiat's.

When I first tried the search function here on the Fiat Forum I found it complicated and unable to provide me with the info I required. I've had no such issues with the Alfa Forum Tuning and Upgrades search, its very simple and easy to use and provides great info.

Prefixes, virtual forums etc. just complicate an already difficult to use search function.

All tuning info in one section with a simple search function works and its needed here IMO.
 
Shadeyman said:
If you remove the MODs from the voting there's an overwhelming vote for a Tuning section by normal members.
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And if you remove dave from the vote the average post count in the "for" camp is significantly less than 1000 and "against" is nearly 5000. So maybe it's just noobs not being able to use the forum or voting before actually realising it's already there. ;)
 
You're missing the point. We had a Tuning forum before, but no one knew how to use it! They were posting any question in it, rather that it being actual tuning. Then there was the problem that people couldn't decide what was tuning and what wasn't.

That link I gave you, links to all Tuning threads across all models - which is what a tuning forum would be anyway. Search isn't complicated, you just select the "Tuning" prefix.

If you want to find tuning about X, just go to search, select "Tuning" then put in the keyword.
 
So regardless of what members vote for they're not going to get a tuning section which makes this thread pointless.

I vote close the thread and we'll continue to use other forums for Fiat tuning info. (y)
 
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ben said:
You're proving our point .... no one really knew what Tuning was anyway. A Tuning forum would just be full of the same (as it was)
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be a lot easier to spot the odd wrong ones and just move them.

Lets Talk FIAT section is full of posts that shouldn't be there but we still have the section

have we found any members who even remember this tuning section yet?
 
Shadeyman said:
So regardless of what members vote for they're not going to get a tuning section which makes this thread pointless.

I vote close the thread and we'll continue to use other forums for Fiat tuning info. (y)
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We don't implement every feature voted for on here, that would just be silly.

As I said, pretty much at the start - I'm looking at a way to implement it so it could fit in properly with the rest of the forum. It really doesn't matter how AO do it - we are not AO.

You should also note, that only 2 people in this thread are actually pushing it .....
 
And one is a hypocrite


dave said:
most of the 8v fire stuff aplies to diffrent models, but if we have a tuning section it will just get confusing i think
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Edit: found using FF's very friendly, easy to use and quick search function

Have a nice day now
 
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ben said:
You should also note, that only 2 people in this thread are actually pushing it .....
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I doubt most normal members are insterested in arguing with yourself and other site staff to get something they want, its easier to continue using other sites for tuning info. The voting proves my point I think.
 
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neeny09 said:
And one is a hypocrite




Edit: found using FF's very friendly, easy to use and quick search function

Have a nice day now
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lol 2006 a lot has changed since then, some people do think about things then change there minds rather that just running with the pack all the time
15 years ago i probably would have never bought a fiat
 
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ben said:
Again - if you have a read back over my posts, I'm not arguing, I'm trying to find a good solution for you. Infact right this minute, I am reading over code to try and help with your request.
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And its appreciated. :worship:

ben said:
But then - that doesn't make for much of a fight does it?
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Fight, no thanks, I've had more than my fare share of them. :shakehead:

I'm not into tuning but I'd be interested in reading a tuning section if you able to create one. There's some very knowledgeable members here, seems a pity to let their tuning expertise slip by unoticed. (y)

Just hope your able to find a unbiased moderator to do the section justice.
 
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I've just given the advanced search a try using the Tuning prefix and searched for anything JTD related as its a very popular engine to tune.

The results are Pathetic so say the least. (n)

Can we please have a dedicated Tuning section?

Tuning-Prefix.jpg
 
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