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Old 23-04-2009   #16
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

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IMO Lancia and Alfa are the more popular of all that are listed and i have spoken to many people people with said cars who would like to come and show them off to people who would appreciate them. Other than owners of same make of model.
By that token then we should have a forum for every major manufacturer as I know of people with Fords, VXs, VAGs etc that wouldn't mind showing their cars off to people who'll appreciate them but don't necessarily own them...

This is why we have a non-FIAT section. We don't have the non-FIAT section bursting at the seams to contain all the traffic. Splitting up the non-FIAT section to have separate Lancia and AR sections is neither necessary or useful IMO.
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

but then if you have lancia/alfa section the whole forum will get an increase in knowledge and usefullness as many Lancias/alfas/fiats share key components.

for example the engine in my car comes from a lancia, the chasis is the same as used with alfa 155's which are often race prepped.

If you opened it up fully and encouraged lancia/alfa owners onto this website the whole site would benefit due to the shared nature of fiats cars. there's loads of things shared, platforms eg tipo, panda, GP etc. engines, then there's the possible sources of tuning parts.

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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

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but then if you have lancia/alfa section the whole forum will get an increase in knowledge and usefullness as many Lancias/alfas/fiats share key components.

for example the engine in my car comes from a lancia, the chasis is the same as used with alfa 155's which are often race prepped.

If you opened it up fully and encouraged lancia/alfa owners onto this website the whole site would benefit due to the shared nature of fiats cars. there's loads of things shared, platforms eg tipo, panda, GP etc. engines, then there's the possible sources of tuning parts.

More knowledge is never a bad thing!
The chances are those with that knowledge would already be on the likes of Alfa Owner etc. They may not be necessarily willing to repeat everything they've already said at least once, not when it's easily accessible, just on a different site.

From experience of my work in the ICE forum, it would have never been as good as the likes of a dedicated ICE forum such as Talk Audio no matter how hard you try. The number of active members with the level of knowledge needed just wouldn't happen to make it work. That could easily happen with what you've suggested.

What I wouldn't want to see is FF becoming a jack of all trades. A jack of all trades is a master of none, after all. I also remember several members being rather annoyed that Fiatforums was allegedly trying to poach members for its own forum. The likes of Alfa Owner may feel the same way if FF is seen doing a similar thing, which would damage this forum's reputation.
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

The last part there could be very true and i see your point there. But if as MDM says becomes true then wouldnt it be a path to other forums or a good introduction for the basics like the ICE forum and then when people are a little more confident they can go to a more dedicated forum without looking completely clueless.
The forum is about helping people at the end of the day. It also may be healthy to promote a bit of competition for the tuning and aftermarket traders that use the site and they themselves may learn something too which will then be passed on to the forum users when they get superior products.
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

As Lancia has been part of FIAT since 1969, and all subsequent cars and engines have been FIAT derived (if not more than a reskin and rebadge) I see that it makes sense.

AO caters for ALFA more than enough, and the direct links have been less compared to Lancia vehicles - even after the Alfa marque was acquired in 1985

My Lancias have Fiat Twin Cams. The rest of the ancilliaries and parts are really Fiat parts-bin. It's a Fiat with a twist.

I agree fully on a Lancia section.

I don't see the need for an Alfa section.
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

Fiatforums.com was coping our threads post-for-post, word for word!
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

We have a links section, just post links to AR and lancia forums in there. Then everyone on this forum knows where to look for extra knowledge etc......

Plus all our FF stickers would be out of date....we would have to change them.
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

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This is why we have a non-FIAT section...Splitting up the non-FIAT section to have separate Lancia and AR sections is neither necessary or useful IMO.
I disagree. I think having separate entries for the major manufacturers (Ford, Vauxhall, Volkswagen, etc) would make that part of the Forum a little tidier. If you wanted to look specifically at one make, then it would only take one click and not a trawl through all the posts.

I have both Alfa Romeo and Lancia items waiting to fit on my Fiats btw, albeit only wheels
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

If people want to specifically look at Vauxhalls they've come to the wrong place.

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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

I agree with Hellcat.

This is the best forum for fiat owners and I would prefer to keep it that way. If people want to extensive sections for other makes and models then go to dedicated forums for that.

We cannot please everyone. There was enough fuss and debate on having a non-fiat section but we were happy to put that in but it seems that much wants more
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

But we don't all exclusively drive Fiats. Members post up their pics &ask questions in the non-Fiat thread. All I'm saying is that it would be easier to look at if the cars were grouped in their own manufacturers' section. I own a Focus. I might be interested in what other FF'ers were doing with theirs; all I'd have to do then would be click on the Ford section of non-Fiat. This is my interpretation of the original poster's suggestion for Lancia &Alfa Romeo. Seemed like a good idea. However, I see that there are around 750 threads in the non-Fiat sections, so maybe it would take too much to sort them out?

That said, I can see the reasoning behind restricting non-Fiat stuff and I must add that neither of my other forums - Focus &2CV - offer an 'outsiders' section, tho bizarrely, the 2CV site has a bikers section!
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

If you don't want to trawl the non-fiat sections just to find ford focus' specifically then enter Ford Focus into the search bar. Or visit www.fordfocusforum.com or whatever....
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Re: Lancia & Alfa Romeo sections

I could almost agree with a Lancia and Alfa section as they're both Fiat group cars.. but Fords and Vauxhalls... no thanks.

There are 1050 threads for the Bravo section - a car that's only been available for 2 years! So I'd say they non-fiat section isn't popular enough to warrant the huge amount of administration which would be required to keep it tidy and have the availability for every make of car aside from Fiat.
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