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Old 29-08-2008   #1
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In order to continually improve the content quality of FF, we the mods have been looking at other forums/sites, to get an idea of what a well run board needs in the way of rules, under consideration are the following, so far it's merely us batting ideas back and forth, but, and this is a bit more serious, there have been occasions where the mod team have been accused of either being to lax, or too strict. so it was decided to look further afield and see how it's done out there. this is by no means final, merely a starting point for the direction and tone we want the forum to take, the mods here work of their own time, for no renumeration, and do so on the basis they are not taking abuse for it.

the following has been lifted from the team bhp site, and provides a fairly good idea of what we are talking about:

The facility of uploading pictures directly to Team-BHP has now been enabled. Henceforth, please do not use imageshack or any other external photo hosting solutions. Attachments have been enabled for all membership levels, only to increase the level of convenience to BHPians, as well as to ensure that pictures never expire from threads.
Photo Upload Rules:

* The file size must be no more than 1 MB / 1000 KB.
* Each post may include a maximum of 20 pictures.

Technical Information:

* There is absolutely no restriction on the image resolution (e.g. 1920Χ1080). However, within posts, the uploaded image will display in a maximum size of 800 pixels. To view the larger resolution copy, simply click on the image (within the post) and the original size photo will pop open in a separate window.
* Images smaller than 800 pixels will be displayed in their original size only.

As you know, we (The Moderator Team) have supported Team-BHP independently for well over 4 years now. With our community growing in leaps and bounds, it has become increasingly difficult to bear the expenses of Team-BHP ourselves. Costs related to software, server hosting, design etc. have hit the roof. In the near future, you will be seeing advertisements on Team-BHP. Some clarifications:

* Strictly NO Automotive Funding: This has always been our principle and will stay so. Team-BHP will NEVER accept any funds from the automotive industry. Translated, NO automotive manufacturer (or even a tyre brand!) will be allowed to market on Team-BHP.
* NO Clutter: At the most, there will be one banner per page for BHPian+. Guests may view upto 2 banners per page. This equates to only 7% (or less) of each page's size. The focus will always be on content.

The following rules MUST be strictly adhered to, when using the Team-BHP Classifieds Section:

1. Titles should be absolutely precise, and clearly indicate the year, make and model of the product. Example : “2007 Honda Civic”.

2. Product price is compulsory for any listing. Ads placed without an indication of the price will be deleted immediately, with the possibility of an infraction to the said member's account. Type the price in full in the required field - eg. 340,000Rp NOT 3.40Rp.

3. Photographs are compulsory for each ad. The photograph should be of the ACTUAL product, and not a mere sample lifted off the internet. The size limit for uploaded photographs is 500 kb per file.

4. Comments to each ad must be made only from seriously interested parties. Please do NOT discuss the product or price if you have no intentions of buying it. Similarly, leave feedback only for those sellers who you have bought a product from.

5. Dealers and business persons are allowed to sell in the Team-BHP Classifieds, except within the “Gadgets” section.

6. Sellers may enter their email address and phone number as an option. This is not compulsory, though highly recommended as guest viewers will not be able to PM you.

7. Only one product per ad is allowed. Multiple product ads will be deleted immediately. Also, do NOT repeatedly create new ads for the same product else your account may face an infraction / ban.

8. No more than 3 ads per week are permitted. Ads placed at a frequency higher than this will be categorised as "flooding" and may result in your membership being infracted / banned.

9. Our regular board rules apply to the classified section as well. Please review them before proceeding any further : Link to Board Rules.

Team-BHP has implemented a comprehensive warning / notification system that will assist the Support Team in maintaining the quality of this community. Your user account will now accumulate points for each offensive post that is against the Team-BHP Rules and Guidelines. We strongly advise new members to get familiar with our board rules.

In the event that a members profile accumulates 10 points, that member will be temporarily banned from Team-BHP. Each point infraction is valid for a period of 45 days, after which the infraction is deleted and your points come back to 0.

• Excessive smilies : 3 points

• SMS / Slang / Poor Readability : 4 points

• Spamming / Excessive one liners : 4 points

• Personal attacks : 4 points

• Posting externally hosted pictures : 4 points

• Plagiarism : 5 points

• Commercial exploitation : 5 points

• Posting classified ads without price / picture : 5 points

• Abusive Language : 7 points

• Trolling : 7 points

• Racial / sexual abuse : 10 points

Most infractions will entail a notification PM. Infractions can also be viewed in your own user profile.

Posts made in these forum sections will not add to your total post count.

1. Introduce Yourself.
2. Collection of the Best Threads.
3. Shifting Gears.
4. Marketplace.

In order to recognise those BHPians that have made a significant and consistent contribution to our community, Team-BHP announces a new membership category - The Distinguished-BHPian. Entry to this new membership category is only by invitation from the Team-BHP Support Staff. In our recognition of their contribution to Team-BHP, and to express our gratitude to them....

In addition to all the regular benefits, Distinguished BHPians will be entitled to:

- A new user title "Distinguished BHPian" with a 5 star display
- A Team-BHP Email address
- Set self to Invisible mode
- An increased PM space of 1000 messages
- An increased Number of BHP Garages (25)
- Access to a private forum where they can have a one-on-one with the Team-BHP Support staff

n order to continually improve the content quality of Team-BHP, we have implemented the following membership levels:

1. Newbie : Less than 50 posts *

This is where fresh members will start their Team-BHP journey.

Newbies will NOT be able to:

- Directly post in the community. Their posts will show if and when they have been approved by the moderators
- View the Members list, Member profiles or use the "Email Member" facility
- Have more than 50 PMs in their box
- Post polls
- Upload their car pictures in the BHP Garage

* Note - In some cases, newbie status shall be retained by a member past the 50 post mark if their posting habits are not yet entirely in accordance with the expected decorum and rules of Team-BHP. They will attain BHPian status on a case by case basis depending on noticeable changes in their posting habits.


2. BHPian : Greater than 50 posts

Access to all standard features including direct posting (no moderator que), a PM box size of 250 messages, polls, thread rating, BHP Garage etc.


3. Senior BHP-ian : Greater than 1000 posts + 1 Year Membership

Senior BHPians will have the privilege of:

- a PM capacity of 500 messages
- Posting events on the calendar (TB Meets etc.)


4. Distinguished BHPian : Only by invitation, and based on contribution to the Team-BHP

In addition to all the regular benefits, Distinguished BHPians will be entitled to:

- A new user title "Distinguished BHPian" with a 5 star display
- A Team-BHP Email address
- Set self to Invisible mode
- An increased PM space of 1000 messages
- An increased Number of BHP Garages (25)
- Access to a private forum where they can have a one-on-one with the Team-BHP Support staff

These guidelines are to be strictly adhered to, when posting in the BHP Garage Section of Team-BHP.

1. The BHP Garage is only for posting pictures of YOUR OWN cars and bikes.

2. Only 7 Photographs per garage are allowed, while a total of 10 garages are available for each member.

3. The Image size is restricted to 500 kb per image.

by all means feel free to provide constructive comment, one of the major differences between us and others, is a lack of a formal subs/fees system, our means of running the site is donations, advertising and goodwill by all. this meand we can pretty much leave it open to anyone to come and go as they please
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Re: site rules

Sorry the only one i really done agree with is being forced to upload imaged to the FF gallery. I have my Photobucket account and no pictures that i put in my car folder on there will be removed. If i have to start uploading stuff to FF gallery aswell as my photobucket account it just becomes a pain in the arse. I understand why you want people to do it but i disagree with it.
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Quote Originally Posted by punto_matt View Post
Sorry the only one i really done agree with is being forced to upload imaged to the FF gallery. I have my Photobucket account and no pictures that i put in my car folder on there will be removed. If i have to start uploading stuff to FF gallery aswell as my photobucket account it just becomes a pain in the arse. I understand why you want people to do it but i disagree with it.
what about in 5+ years time?

its mainly the old threads where you get images that have been moved or removed and it ruins things
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Most likely still be there. Im too lazy to delete any pictures/ the account.
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its mainly the old threads where you get images that have been moved or removed and it ruins things
That is the reason - staff are sick are tired of referring back to old threads, and we all see is red boxes, with missing image links.

We are quite lax in LL, etc - but for technical threads, FAQs, guides, Members' Motors, it is imperative on-site hosting is used. No one is forcing you to use it, but just don't moan when your thread gets deleted for failing to adhere to the rules
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Most likely still be there. Im too lazy to delete any pictures/ the account.
im sure photobucket wont keep your pics forever though
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That is the reason - staff are sick are tired of referring back to old threads, and we all see is red boxes, with missing image links.

We are quite lax in LL, etc - but for technical threads, FAQs, guides, Members' Motors, it is imperative on-site hosting is used. No one is forcing you to use it, but just don't moan when your thread gets deleted for failing to adhere to the rules
If i was doing a guide then i probably would use on site. But for my profile i wouldnt bother hence why i havent made one and probably wont when its just going to get deleted because i use something else to host the pictures.
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If i was doing a guide then i probably would use on site. But for my profile i wouldnt bother hence why i havent made one and probably wont when its just going to get deleted because i use something else to host the pictures.
Yeah, I am too lazy to comment
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Great mod attitude. You ask for constructive comments and im giving you them so where is the problem.
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what about in 5+ years time?

its mainly the old threads where you get images that have been moved or removed and it ruins things
i upload pictures onto my own webspace and then link to them from different forums, if i kept getting told off for doing that on here then i'd just not bother posting any on here.

uploading one photo at a time using a web browser interface is clunky, and a pita. give us ftp access and i'll happily fxp any files over though

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Newbies will NOT be able to:

- Directly post in the community. Their posts will show if and when they have been approved by the moderators
- View the Members list, Member profiles or use the "Email Member" facility
- Have more than 50 PMs in their box
- Post polls
- Upload their car pictures in the BHP Garage
not friendly imo, and we're meant to be a welcoming newbie friendly kind of place. stop them from viewing the member list or profiles, and polls. But not being able to post.. thats the whole point of a forum. And if they can't upload to the gallery then they can't post pictures at all.

I also don't think we need a user infraction system, this is a forum - not a school. Totting up merits and demerits. All of the infration levels are open to moderator discrection - just like the way things are currently handled. Its not broken.

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Access to a private forum where they can have a one-on-one with the Team-BHP Support staff
No. A lot of other forums i'm on have hidden areas for special members and the like, it causes more problems than its worth. If someone wants a one-on-one with staff then there is PM. We don't need anything other than the forum that i assume is only visible to the moderators / admins.
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Quote Originally Posted by punto_matt View Post
Im too lazy to delete any pictures/ the account.
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Yeah, I am too lazy to comment
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Great mod attitude. You ask for constructive comments and im giving you them so where is the problem.
I don't have any problem, it is called a joke
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whats BHP-ian

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Posts made in these forum sections will not add to your total post count.

2. Collection of the Best Threads.
3. Shifting Gears.

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Newbies will NOT be able to:

- Directly post in the community. Their posts will show if and when they have been approved by the moderators
- View the Members list, Member profiles or use the "Email Member" facility
- Have more than 50 PMs in their box
- Post polls
- Upload their car pictures in the BHP Garage

whats wrong with current system?
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All of that was take from the BHP website by the looks of it so it's doesn't all necessarily apply to here. I think what Jai was getting at is are there any rules in there that would help us out, or is adding more rules just going to end being more of a hinderance.

At least that's my understanding
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in simplified terms imo; it's not broken.
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limiting file upload limits nah i been told off for curring down on them before
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