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Old 19-05-2007   #31
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Can we also have a arts & crafts section,needlework,knitting,politics,science,natur e etc etc ....
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Can we also have a arts & crafts section,needlework,knitting,politics,science,natur e etc etc ....
yeah sure and food
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Can we have a subsection of nothing please
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First of i have been toldto come here and state my views by a moderator.

I think there are a few staff members that abuse there power, they use there powers to pick on other members, act like they own the place and to over moderate the forum. If a normal forum member trys to defend someone else against them or try to defend them selves against these so called "staff members" they receive warnings, bans and abuse from them, i find this very childish, pathetic and unnecesary for such a large and active forum community. Ive been involed in several forums in the last 8 years, and i have never seen such wrongfull use of staff powers before.

The forum is excellent apart from this problem Ben, i normally enjoy being here even though i own a Peugeot and i still find the forum informative and helpful and fun. Its just what ive stated above to be a problem.

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May I just add to Jonny's by saying that there are some reformed character's however who used to "abuse power" but now try and mediate more. I think the new guidelines may well help, but maybe forum users should have some input?
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i've seen quite a lot of this over-moderation talk lately.
it seems "moderation in moderation" is the new buzz phrase.
there must be a reason for this.

mods will make mistakes, and they're only human so a bit if natural bias and abuse of power is expected in some cases. personally i dont think there is a big problem, but the systems in place could be improved.

you have to ask, who mods the mods?

when i was recently banned it was very frustrating, i knew i hadn't done anything to intentionally offend anyone, and as far as i was concerned i had not broken any rules, but that doesnt matter if a mod thinks otherwise. i was able to discuss the issue with the appropriate people, and explain that it was simply a misunderstanding. thankfully this resolved the issue amicably, but it would have been better if there was a formal process that was used for situations like this.

there should be a procedure that allows a moderator's decision to be reported (even when you're banned) so that other mods can review the decision and either agree or disagree. that way a ban happy mod will not be able to ban people without other mod's approval. both the mod and user can put forward their cases (maintaining the mods anonymity obviously), and a decision can be made between at least 3 other mods.

otherwise a mod is in a position of power that is open to abuse without any consequence, which always causes problems.

also i think it would be better if you received an email that explains in detail why you were banned, and a detailed PM as well (current brief description is not good enough, there should be a quote showing what you said that was unacceptable, and an explanation of how this breaks the rules) BUT you should also be able to access your inbox when banned so you can actually read the PM (in case you have not updated your registered email address or it not working etc.)
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We could have a rabbits section?
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i agree with the mods. its getting a little ban happy in here. and i don't mean to sound like a d*ck but if my mods did that they would be out of a mod position and fast. may i suggest this as it works on my site rather well since i was going through staff left and right by power abuse. In you smod/admin section i belive it would be best to post if you feel a member should be banned, and you should present the reason why, then is should go through the ranks, and if a majority agree, ban the sod. but if it's something thats REALLY bad. ban him/her then talk about it later. that way it takes out most of the power abuse.well besides post editing. but that can be delt with by a type of AE detector, but that might get annoying.


now on a lighter note. would it hurt to get another theme on the go??
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you have to ask, who mods the mods?
other mods do, but like when normal members get an offical warning or ban its not made public

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there should be a procedure that allows a moderator's decision to be reported (even when you're banned) so that other mods can review the decision and either agree or disagree. that way a ban happy mod will not be able to ban people without other mod's approval. both the mod and user can put forward their cases (maintaining the mods anonymity obviously), and a decision can be made between at least 3 other mods.
decisions are already reviewed by all the mods before a ban is put in place, except for in an emergency, when we have a troll or someone goes off on one and dont stop.

and there is also 2 emails you can complain to ben@fiatforum.com and admin@fiatforum.com

there are also many mods on msn you can add by clicking the little man under their user name

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In you smod/admin section i belive it would be best to post if you feel a member should be banned, and you should present the reason why, then is should go through the ranks, and if a majority agree, ban the sod. but if it's something thats REALLY bad. ban him/her then talk about it later.
thats how its always been
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you have to ask, who mods the mods?
As I have ALWAYS said if anyone has any complaints about the mods they can contact myself or ben. Any complaints sent by PM/Email will not be discussed with other moderator in the "backstage" area.

We dont back up mods just because they are mods, if we dont agree with what they have done then it gets sorted.

If anyone has a complaint about me then tell Ben

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i agree with the mods. its getting a little ban happy in here. and i don't mean to sound like a d*ck but if my mods did that they would be out of a mod position and fast.
OK please list how many geniune members that have been banned - not spam bots - hardly any. I wish people wouldnt just assume and listen to gossip.

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may i suggest this as it works on my site rather well since i was going through staff left and right by power abuse. In you smod/admin section i belive it would be best to post if you feel a member should be banned, and you should present the reason why, then is should go through the ranks, and if a majority agree, ban the sod. but if it's something thats REALLY bad. ban him/her then talk about it later. that way it takes out most of the power abuse.well besides post editing. but that can be delt with by a type of AE detector, but that might get annoying.
Nice suggestion - we have been doing that for years
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