Key scanning on an Abarth Punto

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Key scanning on an Abarth Punto

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As we all know you can buy a device which grabs the code of someone's key fob when they press unlock / lock.

Can this be done on a Abarth Punto so in turn a fake key is made & the robber steals the car..?
 
In theory this can be done to any car - anyone that has the knowledge and experience with this equipment will be able to adapt it to suit any car. The best way to stop this from happening (be it a slim chance), you could get it encrypted by a specialist car security firm. The cost of this can be quite high, but its up to you whether you think its worth it.

Even the best encryptions can be hacked though - it all depends on how hard the guy tracking the code on the car wants it. They will be much more likely to wait for another punter to come along though rather that sit around for hours cracking the encryption.

Best security measures - Get a steering wheel lock with a good, old fashioned, metal key, make your alarm horn/speaker loud as **** and don't leave it in dodgy areas or near the bloke sat in his car with a laptop on his knees :D
 
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No, for years keys and cars are programmed together so that they follow a similar algorithm which means the car is looking for a range of codes and the key emits a range of codes once a code is used the car will ignore it in any further instances and the key will roll on to it's next code based on the algorithm. So no you can't grab the code with some magical scanner because any signal you grab will from that point be ignored.

Let's be honest the remote only unlocks the car and unless it's a keyless entry/starting system it has nothing to do with the immobaliser, which is controlled by a seperate RFID chip. So why go to all the hassle of grabbing codes and fancy electronic devices which a good ol'e house brick will achieve the same result.
 
No, for years keys and cars are programmed together so that they follow a similar algorithm which means the car is looking for a range of codes and the key emits a range of codes once a code is used the car will ignore it in any further instances and the key will roll on to it's next code based on the algorithm. So no you can't grab the code with some magical scanner because any signal you grab will from that point be ignored.

Let's be honest the remote only unlocks the car and unless it's a keyless entry/starting system it has nothing to do with the immobaliser, which is controlled by a seperate RFID chip. So why go to all the hassle of grabbing codes and fancy electronic devices which a good ol'e house brick will achieve the same result.

My Dad's 2010 BMW X6 got stolen using a key scanner last year. Proved by CCTV Footage. Must be ways around this?
 
Well given that BMW are all over the press at the moment for its security issues that involve programing a new key using a simple hack via the OBDII port, I can only assume this is how your dads car went missing as unless the ludicrously vulgar and unnecessary BMW X6 has the security system on a 1980s American car (and I assume it doesn't) then this had nothing to do with grabbing remote signals, from your dad using the remote,

this is a very common technology in car security even my 1993 Mondeo used a synchronised rolling code via infrared, if you could "grab codes" all you would have theoretically needed is a programable tv remote, but because of the system I described you can't.

So unless you are going to show me some lovely CCTV of a man grabbing the codes as your dad is using the key then im not going to believe you and assume it was taken off the current BMW hack which is doing the rounds in the press
 
If you want to steal a modern FIAT, you need to nick the keys to it first - so don't leave in view of your letterbox for starters, or spend the money on keeping your house secure.

I would be interested to hear from the last person who had their FIAT nicked without the keys, unless they were using a low-loader :rolleyes:
 
I was going to buy a steering lock device but it's not worth it after watching this video:

Picking Steering Wheel Security Lock - YouTube

Any lock can be picked..

Do you have one of these locks on your house?
Brass-Euro-Profile-Cylinder-Door-Lock-A60PB-.jpg


Broken in under a minute quite easily.

Dom
 
As we all know you can buy a device which grabs the code of someone's key fob when they press unlock / lock.

Can this be done on a Abarth Punto so in turn a fake key is made & the robber steals the car..?


even if they can grab the remote control code and decript it they cant start the car with it.....
 
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