General Changing anti roll bar bushes Scudo 2007 mk2

[fofbreaker]

Hi I have a scudo 2007 mk2, I have been getting a knocking noise from the front of when going down bumpy roads at low speeds.
I'm hoping this post will help those with similar fault. I went through everything trying to locate this by changing , wishbones, driveshafts, drop link, bottom engine mount (not easy if you've got to change) and top engine mount, even though bottom and top mounts needed changing I still got the knocking.
Turned out to be the anti roll bar bushes, all is good now.
But for anyone thinking of trying this job, think about paying a garage to do this, they may charge anything upto £150, for those that are brave this how I did it,
First jack up van and put on stands
Remove bolts holding anti roll bar
You will also need to remove bolt from passenger side for the steering rack
Remove clamp holding steering rack to give some play in roll bar
Either side first, pull bar as far through so you can get access to the bottom of the clamp holding the bush
The clamps are held together by the top of the clamp been flanged into the bottom, using a mini grinder, I had a air tool, grind from the bottom the lip of as much as you can get to on one side
Then take a chisel and seep rat the one side, this allowing you to remove.
You will then need to take to a bench/vice and do the same to the other side to allow for easy assembly and removal next time, repeat on other side
Put bush on anti roll bar, I greased the bush and slid it on from the drop link connection and moved into place
Re-assemble clamp around bush and tighten, same on other side
Happy days no more knocking.
I'm no pro but it took me around 3hrs once I figured out how to split them.
Hope this helps anyone, as I was looking on here with no joy...
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[mbev51]

hi
if I ever get round to doing mine will reread you good advice. Wouldn't do mine until it fails the mot.

 

[pella1]

I've just concluded this operation on my 2010 Scudo Panorama. Thanks for the description it's really usefull.

Some reflections and tips that I collected along the way:

1. The two parts of the bushing holder was pressed together on my vehicle so I did not need to grind. I just used screwdrivers of various sizes and a chisel to pry them apart.
2. If I would have understood the frequency every one seem to suffer from this problem I would have bought polyurethane bushings instead of the rubber ones I'm putting in now.
3. There is a little bit of manufacturing(grinding + bending(and painting for the meticoulus ones...)) involved with modifing the original holder. If you feel uncomfortable with that I advice buying a complete replacement set(holder and bushing) instead of just the bushing. It's a little bit more expensive but it saves you work.
4. Use plenty of anti-sieze pasta when refitting.
5. Be careful with tightening torques(105Nm on the bushing holder bolts, 57Nm on the steering end to the knuckle, 68Nm on the tie-rod ends)

For me this has taken a lot more time than 3 hrs.

Thanks.

 

[varesecrazy]

Anti seize PASTA - how Italian..

in the UK we say PASTE

thanks for the update,

Charlie

 

[pella1]

Sorry, it's swedish/english... for us it "antiskärnings-pasta".

But please, dont mix it into your italian food. I really dont think it tasts that well...

 

[pella1]

By the way, the cheap aftermarket anti roll bar rubber bushings makes for a more comfortable ride than the steel re-inforced originals.

 

[Tercos]

Hi fellas. I’ve just done my A-R bar bushes and was pleasantly surprised at how straightforward (not easy – more later!) it was. Initially it took me longer to jack up and support the van and get the wheels off than it did to replace the first bush.
So we have the van off the ground. Loosen the bolts from underneath. Mine had 18mm heads I think but the new ones were 19mm. I started with the passenger side, as fofbreaker had scared me (above) by mentioning the steering rack bolt!
With the fixing bolts removed, the top of the clamp was easily pushed up off the bush as pella1 did with a couple of screwdrivers, same for the rubber bits after weakening them with a cutting disc.
To get the old top clamp out (I’d bought the whole polyurethane kit with new clamps) it was only necessary to apply full left lock on the steering to create a big enough space to lift it out, so no steering rack to loosen. That was ALMOST it!
I then did the same on the driver’s side (right hand drive UK van).
The fun came putting the new passenger side clamp back on. The driver’s side went as expected in about 15 minutes but here I hit a problem. I hadn’t noticed that the top clamp is shaped. One side slopes more than the other down to the captive nut. This is to allow clearance for the steering rack’s flexible gaiter (boot). (note* The clamp bases are also shaped to get over the wishbone mount). I’d managed to put the driver’s side together the right way, dead lucky. But I then struggled getting clearance from the a-r bar itself on the nearside until I had a good look at the first one and realised my mistake.
And then I hit the biggest problem. I’d had trouble removing one of the new bolts when I opened the packet with the new kit in, but never gave it a thought so just spannered it out. When the time came to insert the bolts from underneath I could get the front one in no problem but the rear one just wouldn’t go. That’s when I twigged about the bolt being tight in the bag – this top clamp had opened up about 4mm, or just not been made accurately. So that cost me almost half an hour of struggle for nothing until I realised what the problem was, fixed by squeezing it up in a vice after measuring the hole centres on the old kit.
Incidentally I did coat the bar with silicon spray and the new plastic bushes flew on. I was slightly tempted to use the old bolts again as they had nicely tapered ends to make it easier to enter them into the clamp nuts, but decided to use the new ones as they were shiny. The van is silent now over the many potholes in our street.
Videos may or may not help or explain better. You may notice in the second one I put the clamp on the wrong way around! And sorry for the shakiness.

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[Tercos]

I should have revisited this ages ago after I did the job. Anyway, to update - the van is super smooth now when motoring but around the doors going very slowly it squeaks like an old galleon!
Apologies if anyone took my advice and can't stand the noise

 

[ChrisSim]

These posts are a long time ago BUT
I need to change the bushings on my 2008 scudo and my only worry is .
does cutting the bottom of the mounting bracket not weaken the whole mounting system as only the top bracket completely encircles the replacement bushing.
Appreciate someones informed advise