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Re: Ritmo Abarth Convertible Renovation

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as has been said by all the previous posts,the car is not original. no abarths were made between 1971 and 2007,wheels, all the exterior trim etc.

I have to respectfull disagree. Even the serial number is odd; not 138AS000*xxxxxxx or 138AS001*xxxxxxxx or 138ASA002*xxxxxxxx but ZZB138ASO*07017502*
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I have to respectfull disagree. Even the serial number is odd; not 138AS000*xxxxxxx or 138AS001*xxxxxxxx or 138ASA002*xxxxxxxx but ZZB138ASO*07017502*
Why are you selling so soon after buying, thought you only bought this last month? https://www.fiatforum.com/classified...?product=15393
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Why are you selling so soon after buying, thought you only bought this last month? https://www.fiatforum.com/classified...?product=15393

I bought the car for resale about 6 weeks ago. I want to buy a 1957 Alfa Romeo Sprint Veloce that is for sale, but I need to sell the Abarth to do so.



Maybe I should sell one of my other cars instead....
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$25,000 is alot of money for a Ritmo Cab, I presume you paid nothing like that for it?
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Re: Ritmo Abarth Convertible Renovation

Have a look at this photo, same wheels and Abarth badge on the B pillar. The only difference on the nose that I can see is that the grill has been changed and fitted with the Abarth shield which just screws on. The shield looks alot bigger than the ones on the 125TC/130TC. Whats the thing on the A pillar that appears on both cars? The black plastic covers fitted to the 125TC/130TC Abarth models are missing on this car but the bodykit is coded white so that might explain it. I believe that Fiat sold a Bianco special addition with an all white bodykit in the 100s configuration.

If it was a fiat I think it would have a chassis number of ZFA138, but because Bertone produced these cars I suspect that the ZZB chassis number indicates Bertone.

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I have to respectfull disagree. Even the serial number is odd; not 138AS000*xxxxxxx or 138AS001*xxxxxxxx or 138ASA002*xxxxxxxx but ZZB138ASO*07017502*

so are you trying to say abarth made this car?

they made zero cars between 1971 and 2007.
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Re: Ritmo Abarth Convertible Renovation

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so are you trying to say abarth made this car?

they made zero cars between 1971 and 2007.
20vturbo would you please stop banging on about Abarth not making any cars between 1971 and 2007. Abarth is still owned by Fiat and has been since 1971 so if you really want to imagine the 131 Abarth and the 125TC and 130TC don't exist then you really ought to forget the latest Abarth cars since 2007.
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Re: Ritmo Abarth Convertible Renovation

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so are you trying to say abarth made this car?

they made zero cars between 1971 and 2007.
When I bought the car, I didn't know if it was a FIAT with Abarth badges or a real Abarth. I was told by Martini Racing that it is an Abarth Martini Racing Ritmo 100S convertible, and I have no reason to doubt them.

Like the early 750 double bubbles and many other Abarths, I would personally call it a Fiat-Abarth...
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Re: "Abarth Martini Racing Ritmo convertible 100S Mystery????? "

IMO, there are VERY FEW "real" Abarths. The vast majority are FIAT based. Only a handfull of Abarths have no FIAT they are based upon...all racing cars...
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Re: Ritmo Abarth Convertible Renovation

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20vturbo would you please stop banging on about Abarth not making any cars between 1971 and 2007. Abarth is still owned by Fiat and has been since 1971 so if you really want to imagine the 131 Abarth and the 125TC and 130TC don't exist then you really ought to forget the latest Abarth cars since 2007.
those are fiats !!!

its not that hard to understand really.

try and get some facts right in your posts





that ^ is a real abarth, and it just happens to be mine.
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Re: "Abarth Martini Racing Ritmo convertible 100S Mystery????? "

According to your own definition, your car would be a Fiat-Abarth and not an Abarth...in fact 98% of Abarths are actually Fiat-Abarths.

Abarth themselves built very few chassis and motors; virtually all of the chassis and motors Abarth used are Fiat derivatives..
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Re: "Abarth Martini Racing Ritmo convertible 100S Mystery????? "

no i think you will find it is an abarth.

as in Abarth Grande Punto

not like

Fiat 131 Abarth.

see what i did there?
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Re: "Abarth Martini Racing Ritmo convertible 100S Mystery????? "

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no i think you will find it is an abarth.

as in Abarth Grande Punto

not like

Fiat 131 Abarth.

see what i did there?

The topic starter decieded to claim my Cabrio was NOT an abarth.. Which I haven't claimed it to be.
HOWEVER.. I did say the base of my car, engine, gearbox, suspention ALL of it and more are ALL taken from a 3 door hatch called the Abarth 130TC.
Making it a version of the Abarth with a 2 litre Twin Cam, Double Solex or Weber 40s version as the Ritmo/Strada 130TC all had.


Some info:

Abarth diversified in producing various tuning kits for road vehicles, mainly for Fiat, Abarth also produced high-performance exhaust pipes.

Abarth was sold to Fiat on July 31 1971 and the racing team sold to Enso Osella and Abarth became the racing department of Fiat.

Some models built by Fiat or its subsidiaries Lancia and Autobianchi were co-branded Abarth, the most famous being the Autobianchi A112 Abarth.

Abarth also prepared Fiat Group's rally cars like Fiat 124 Abarth and 131 Abarth.

In the 80s Abarth name was mainly used to mark performance Fiats like Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130 TC.

The name was almost forgotten in 1990s and in 2000s it was used like a trim/model level on FIAT cars, like the FIAT Stilo Abarth.

In 2007 Fiat Automobile relaunched the brand with the Grande Punto Abarth and the Grande Punto Abarth S2000. The brand is to be seen as a separate division to the main Fiat brand in a similar way that the Renault Sport brand is to the mainstream Renault.

So basically.. Abarth DID not make any cars at all.. Abarth only tuned them like AMG does Merceders or Alpina does BMW a.s.o


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Re: "Abarth Martini Racing Ritmo convertible 100S Mystery????? "

abarth and the other makers you quoted are classed as seperate manufacturers,but your copy and paste from wikipedia did not show you that.

no such car as an abarth 130

there was a car called a fiat ritmo/strada abarth 130 tc however.
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Re: "Abarth Martini Racing Ritmo convertible 100S Mystery????? "

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So basically.. Abarth DID not make any cars at all.. Abarth only tuned them like AMG does Merceders or Alpina does BMW a.s.o


who is merceders?

amg is not classed as a manufacturer.

but brabus,alpina and abarth are,it surely cannot be that hard to take in?
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