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P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

Hi all,

An error code -- P0710 Temperature ( from CAN ) shows on Multi Ecu Scan, erased and came back on.

On the dash , no warning lights whatsoever, no leaking fluids on the pavement, driving is fine.

Found something on the website suggests ---- P0710 means that your transmission is overheating, or that the sensor is faulty. This could be due to leaking, low, or dirty fluid, or a bad sensor

P0710 FIAT Description
The Automatic Transmission (A/T) fluid temperature sensor detects the A/T fluid temperature and sends a signal to the Transmission Control Module (TCM).


Had a suggestion from HonestJohn , it could be the faulty temperature sensor.

Any advise is much helpful, many thanks.

Scot
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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

Pretty easy to test the sensor it will either be a ntc or ptc type set you multimeter to ohms , and warm the sensor if itís a ntc the resistance will go down the hotter it gets and a ptc it will go up , also see if you can see an actual live reading on multiscan do it when the vehicle is cold so all sensors are at ambient temp and see if itís way above what it should be at that
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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

Hi K333fer,

Where is this sensor located?

Wil look for the transmission temperature on mes, good suggestion, thanks!
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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

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Hi K333fer,



Where is this sensor located?



Wil look for the transmission temperature on mes, good suggestion, thanks!


Which gearbox is in it I will see what I can find out
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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

1.3 auto multijet 2014

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Just used the mes software, unsure which to look for, is there a mechanical name for transmission temperature sensor?

1 thing did sound interesting was the message
- Take appropriate action to fix this sensor fault
Does it indicated that the sensor is faulty? Not low on transmission or dirty fluid.

1 garage said they are unable to determine an actual fault
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Hi scot
Their is no way to determine actual fault,
need to change sensor first & go from their

We are unable to price up due to no book time
We would need to see vehicle, main agents
said two sensors fitted to gearbox unable to say which is needed
depends where they are on gearbox, one sensor £220.54 + vat
other sensor £78.36 +vat both parts special order, so would need payment for part up front
before we order. Once order cannot cancel order.
My boss said if you call around he would check where sensors are & quote you labour then
To check where sensors are he would not charge you.
Best Regards
Yvonne
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Any advice is great help, thanks.
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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

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Hi all,



An error code -- P0710 Temperature ( from CAN ) shows on Multi Ecu Scan, erased and came back on.



On the dash , no warning lights whatsoever, no leaking fluids on the pavement, driving is fine.



Found something on the website suggests ---- P0710 means that your transmission is overheating, or that the sensor is faulty. This could be due to leaking, low, or dirty fluid, or a bad sensor



P0710 FIAT Description

The Automatic Transmission (A/T) fluid temperature sensor detects the A/T fluid temperature and sends a signal to the Transmission Control Module (TCM).





Had a suggestion from HonestJohn , it could be the faulty temperature sensor.



Any advise is much helpful, many thanks.



Scot


The battery voltage on the data generated when the fault was logged is slightly concerning and it was not running but gear 1 was selected
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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

Hi K333fer,

Which data u were referring to, and what can i do?

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The battery voltage on the data generated when the fault was logged is slightly concerning and it was not running but gear 1 was selected

Hi,
About the battery anomoly and 1st gear, which photo were u referred to?

These few photos, the electrical socket ( right below oil filter ) is greased , i suspect its the engine oil in the oil filter dripped to the socket at the previous oil filter change, i did asked a mechanic and he said not to worry as the grease will give the socket a layer of seal.
Do you know what is this connector for? Its is hard to reach as its position wedged between the radiotor and the engine,
Could it be the transmission temperature sensor ?

Can i spray it with the electrical contact cleaner? A real long blast!

Please advise, thanks.

Scot
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Thatís the air con clutch wiring yeh no problem to clean with that
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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

Quote Originally Posted by Zron View Post
Hi,
About the battery anomoly and 1st gear, which photo were u referred to?

These few photos, the electrical socket ( right below oil filter ) is greased , i suspect its the engine oil in the oil filter dripped to the socket at the previous oil filter change, i did asked a mechanic and he said not to worry as the grease will give the socket a layer of seal.
Do you know what is this connector for? Its is hard to reach as its position wedged between the radiotor and the engine,
Could it be the transmission temperature sensor ?

Can i spray it with the electrical contact cleaner? A real long blast!

Please advise, thanks.

Scot
Hi contact cleaner is OK to use, no harm in trying.
The garage are incompetent if they say they cannot tell which sensor is faulty without changing it. Try ringing a couple of auto electricians and asking if they know the system and how much they would charge to test the sensor(s). You are supposed to be paying the garage for expertise, not letting them make profit on parts you might not need.
I'll look at MES tonight in simulation and see if I tell what sensors there are.


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Thatís the air con clutch wiring yeh no problem to clean with that

Hi K333fer,

So the connector has nothing to do with the sensor, does the grease on it bad for its functionality at all?

I spoke to an auto electrician, he is not sure the sensor exist because the way how qubo auto is, to my understanding its a manual gear box with robotic control over it, simple term, is it automatic transmission ? Which got the sensor for transmission temperature.

Please advise, thank u all.


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Re: P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )

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Hi K333fer,



So the connector has nothing to do with the sensor, does the grease on it bad for its functionality at all?



I spoke to an auto electrician, he is not sure the sensor exist because the way how qubo auto is, to my understanding its a manual gear box with robotic control over it, simple term, is it automatic transmission ? Which got the sensor for transmission temperature.



Please advise, thank u all.





Scot


No it wonít hurt it at all itís got a seal inside it anyway
Now as far as I can tell from the oil listings there is 2 auto boxes fitted to them I def know the earlier one was a manual with electronic shift and clutch control havenít seen the later one
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Have just been looking at the gearboxes on eBay as far as I can work out the easiest visible difference between them is the later one has an accumulator sphere on the top a black ball shaped thing near the back at the top of the gearbox Iíve got to go to my local factors in the morning they have the fiat parts system I will see if he can look up the temp sensor
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No it wonít hurt it at all itís got a seal inside it anyway
Now as far as I can tell from the oil listings there is 2 auto boxes fitted to them I def know the earlier one was a manual with electronic shift and clutch control havenít seen the later one

Hi K333fer,

Is there a way to check the sensor and its whereabouts?

According to Fiat , there are 2 different sensors within the transmission ( prices quoted , see above post )

Thank you.


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