Hi Robert,
I bought the mes on ebay, what can i do with it now?
About the oil , clutch and engine temperature, what to see for the improper temperatures?
Thank you.
Scot
Technical P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )
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Technical P0710 - Temperature ( from CAN )
Hi Robert,
I bought the mes on ebay, what can i do with it now?
About the oil , clutch and engine temperature, what to see for the improper temperatures?
Thank you.
Scot
Hi K333fer,
Sorry to be blunt, in another word, the error code of P0710 shows on the mes is not relevant?
Because the last thing we need is leaking transmission oil, dirty oil , too low on fluid but without the sensor to warn us.
Thank u.
Scot
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Ok sorry if it sounded like just don’t worry about it
Sometime you will get faults set via can that be triggered by low voltage can communications can be very sensitive to voltage ,
Has the transmission oil been checked for correct level ?
Maybe an idea would be to drive the car with Mes on whilst looking at the temperatures for engine / ambient air and transmission and see if any of them are far outside of where the other is ie the engine and transmission should be reasonably the same
I will still get my parts guy to look in the system a bit later to see about the sensors
Hope that helps
Hi K333fer,
At the time when we bought the car, i did asked my local garage guy, according to him this transmission should last the life time of the vehicle, although he is the kind of not-bothered mechanic that until he sees oil/fluid appeared on the under body of the car, he is unwilling to deal with us, he actually turned us away for this P0710 job.
I have did the best i can as an amateur diyer, how to inspect the transmission fluid if you dont mind i check.
Thank you.
Scot
At the time when we bought the car, i did asked my local garage guy, according to him this transmission should last the life time of the vehicle, although he is the kind of not-bothered mechanic that until he sees oil/fluid appeared on the under body of the car, he is unwilling to deal with us, he actually turned us away for this P0710 job.
I have did the best i can as an amateur diyer, how to inspect the transmission fluid if you dont mind i check.
Thank you.
Scot
Hi guys,
lets keep it cool. Memebers trying to help often dont have much tie to write detailed explanations. K333fer is certainly not the worst. I think what he was suggesting is that the fault code may have been caused by a low battery or CAN bus issue rather than a "hard" fault.
Other things:
Dodgy MES If you bought it recently (last month or so) put a case in with ebay as item not as described and tell them it was an illegal copy. You will get your money back and can get a valid copy from www.multiecuscan.net Please tell us the ebay item number of (or a link to) the ebay item you bought so we can avoid it, If we dont pay for this software there will be no updates or support in the future, The cost is less than one session with a dealer.
Checking oil: as it's a conventional gearbox there is no dipstick so the only way to check is to remove the level plug. Note that the fault is not an actual overheat, but a missing signal. It needs to be fixed but its not an immediate threat to the car. That said take any other signs of a problem seriously.
What to do next.
Connect up MES with the engine stopped (ignition on) and connect. Click the Scan (F11) button and make a note of the engine and transmission ECU model numbers it reports.
On the left of the screen select (click) engine, select the ecu model you noted and click connect (F10) When this connects Click the errors (F3) button, note any errors and clear them (F10) . Click the Parameters tab (F4) and scroll down until you see Air temperature MAF, Enginetemperature and engine temperature signal. Click th check boxes next to these and the current values should be displayed. If the engine has not run recently they should all be the same and about ambient.
If you click the graph tab the signals should be displayed and graphed.
Disconnect from the engine ECU and repeat the above for the gearbox ECU, gearbox oil temperature and clutch temperature. Consider any inconsistencies.
Disconnect from the Gearbox ECU, re-do the rengine stages but start the engine ths time and let it warm up while watching the graph. save the graph. connect to the gearbox ecu , check for errors and the oil and clutch temperatures , report back.
Robert G8RPI.
lets keep it cool. Memebers trying to help often dont have much tie to write detailed explanations. K333fer is certainly not the worst. I think what he was suggesting is that the fault code may have been caused by a low battery or CAN bus issue rather than a "hard" fault.
Other things:
Dodgy MES If you bought it recently (last month or so) put a case in with ebay as item not as described and tell them it was an illegal copy. You will get your money back and can get a valid copy from www.multiecuscan.net Please tell us the ebay item number of (or a link to) the ebay item you bought so we can avoid it, If we dont pay for this software there will be no updates or support in the future, The cost is less than one session with a dealer.
Checking oil: as it's a conventional gearbox there is no dipstick so the only way to check is to remove the level plug. Note that the fault is not an actual overheat, but a missing signal. It needs to be fixed but its not an immediate threat to the car. That said take any other signs of a problem seriously.
What to do next.
Connect up MES with the engine stopped (ignition on) and connect. Click the Scan (F11) button and make a note of the engine and transmission ECU model numbers it reports.
On the left of the screen select (click) engine, select the ecu model you noted and click connect (F10) When this connects Click the errors (F3) button, note any errors and clear them (F10) . Click the Parameters tab (F4) and scroll down until you see Air temperature MAF, Enginetemperature and engine temperature signal. Click th check boxes next to these and the current values should be displayed. If the engine has not run recently they should all be the same and about ambient.
If you click the graph tab the signals should be displayed and graphed.
Disconnect from the engine ECU and repeat the above for the gearbox ECU, gearbox oil temperature and clutch temperature. Consider any inconsistencies.
Disconnect from the Gearbox ECU, re-do the rengine stages but start the engine ths time and let it warm up while watching the graph. save the graph. connect to the gearbox ecu , check for errors and the oil and clutch temperatures , report back.
Robert G8RPI.
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Hi Robert,
I agreed that pirated products are destroying the continuity of a company.
The seller listing this item - 122660115548
Very grateful for the instruction of monitoring the temperatures, i will perform it in the next few days and take it from there.
Thank you.
Scot
I agreed that pirated products are destroying the continuity of a company.
The seller listing this item - 122660115548
Very grateful for the instruction of monitoring the temperatures, i will perform it in the next few days and take it from there.
Thank you.
Scot
Hi Robert,
No disrespect to original poster, but having looked at the item on e bay it would be easy to fooled into believing it to be genuine.
As a registered user of the software, this does annoy me, so I have reported this as a copyright infringement against eBay rules, I would suggest that http://www.multiecuscan.net/ copyright owner does the same.
Ken
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Hi,
Not entirely clear on the screenshot sequence, but apart from one high clutch temperature, they look reasonable. Are you still seeing the error code? If you reset it does it come straight back. The high clutch temp. is probably OK as it's bolted to the engine and we don't know how they calculate it.
If you are still getting error codes it would be worth resetting learnt parameteres and doing a proxi-alignment.
Robert G8RPI.
Not entirely clear on the screenshot sequence, but apart from one high clutch temperature, they look reasonable. Are you still seeing the error code? If you reset it does it come straight back. The high clutch temp. is probably OK as it's bolted to the engine and we don't know how they calculate it.
If you are still getting error codes it would be worth resetting learnt parameteres and doing a proxi-alignment.
Robert G8RPI.
Hi Robert,
What is consider high clutch temp? Mine
Cold was -2'c to warmed 51'c.
The error code was erased and reappeared straight away , like u have said.
At the moment are we certain that the transmission fluid temperature sensor is ok? And good to go with a set of new parameters according to my vehicle?
Thank u for the advise.
Scot
I think we need to see what K333fer comes up with from the parts catalogue. As far as I can tell there isn't a physical temeperature sensor in the gearbox.
Robert G8RPI.
Robert G8RPI.
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I’m still waiting for my parts guy to look in to it as he was later in to work yesterday due to a family problem
Thanks for your input in this you said what I was trying to , I don’t personally use mes I use snap on , autel , launch , pico , Vaux com and vag com in the course of my job so not really oh fe with the menus on Mes
It seems there are no way out for this uncertainty, is changing the transmission fluid be a peace of mind way, at least I can keep track of the fluid and perhaps change it every 3 -5 years..
Is changing the automatic transmission fluid < selespeed fluid > a light duty job, where about is it , pls advise.
Many thanks.
Scot
Hi, the error code still there on the last scan about few months ago, i will perform a routine scan soon, doubt it will go away.
I had given up finding the true fault, if ever there is one, because up til now, must have been nearly 2 years, there is no single problem, no warning lights on dash, car runs well, i suppose its like --- you dont trouble me, i dont trouble you
Only thing i have noticed, sometimes there is a click-like noise from 1st gear to 2nd, 2nd gear to 3rd, that happens 5 out of 10 gear shifts.
Good luck and enjoy the dualogic magic.
I had given up finding the true fault, if ever there is one, because up til now, must have been nearly 2 years, there is no single problem, no warning lights on dash, car runs well, i suppose its like --- you dont trouble me, i dont trouble you
Only thing i have noticed, sometimes there is a click-like noise from 1st gear to 2nd, 2nd gear to 3rd, that happens 5 out of 10 gear shifts.
Good luck and enjoy the dualogic magic.
