Here are the gearbox ratios for the hardtop Fiat Punto's 1993-1999.
This list excludes models with the 85 (1.2 16v) engine, if you have the ratios for this engine please message me and I'll add them.

*For cars with body codes: 176BA53F, 176BA55F, 176BA53P, 176BA55P
** For cars with body codes: 176BB53F, 176BB55F, 176BB53P, 176BB55P
*** For cars with body codes: 176BL53A, 176BL55A, 176BL53P, 176BL55P

These are the final drive ratios for the hardtop Punto's.


*For cars with body codes: 176BA53F, 176BA55F, 176BA53P, 176BA55P

For Fiat Punto Cabriolet models the ratios are as follows,


*For cars with body codes: 176BB52C
** For cars with body codes: 176BL52C

lower gear ratio= faster acceleration?

flisko said:

lower gear ratio= faster acceleration?

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Technically yes, but with a shorter gear you will have to change up sooner than you would with a longer one which means your acceleration time is affected by the need to change gears. Downside of short gears is also the higher revolution the engine must run at to achieve a cruising speed. The earlier Cabriolet models (without body codes, 176BB52C or 176BL52C) due to their short gearing and high final drive ratio (differential ratio) will be cruising with high RPM's at 60-70mph compared to any other model. Although the 6-speed model is a bit of a false economy because despite having 6 gears and fairly long gears its considerably shorter final drive means even in 6th it won't be at particularly low RPM whilst cruising.

interesting... are you sure the figures you have are for the 90 and not the 85.. Seems weird the 90 would have exactly the same gearing as the 55 & 60 bearing in mind its a different engine and box entirely from the FIRE engined cars, it would make more sense that the 85s had the same box as the 55/60 as they could have just literally used the same box and gear set plus from having driven them (as in 55,60,85) from memory the road speeds are same in each gear just the 85 gets there quicker as it has more power and revs higher.

I would have thought that the 90 would just have the same gear set as the GT but with a different final drive to counter the lack of torque compared to the turbo engine. Of course I am speculating on that, I don't actually know - it would just make sense and cost less money to manufacture... With regard to your other post in your thread about gearing your car up a bit i'm sure sticking a GT box on would prob be best way to go rather than higher profile tyres

PS> New sig i see, wondered how long that would take

I have now mk2 box in my mk1 60 and the gearing seem to be the same but final drive is longer (smaller number). May be we should add mk2 boxes compatible with mk1 to this table.

loads of fiats have the c514 gearbox... i don't know where we could find details of all the ratios and final drives but in terms of mk1 puntos 55, 60, 75, 85 all have interchangeable box, you could also fit box from classic bravo/a (the ones with fire engines), mk2 punto, uno, grand, cinquecento, seicento, new panda, even old panda (but older old pandas have a different selector mechanism, rods and not cables), 500's (not including abarths although they could be made to fit with some messing - nor mjet ones or twin-airs). They all use the same box with different ratios
Fiat parts are highly interchangeable throughout the ranges, particularly stuff with a FIRE engine. The 1.6 mk1 puntos share lots of parts with some of the older cars like tipos for example.

All ratios etc are listed in the owners handbook for the model, so you need someone with a late 1.2 to chip in with the info.

I'd imagine these would be the same as the Mk2s, although the engine itself was updated going to Mk2.

My Brava 1.2 had the gearbox rebuilt into another casing a few months ago, the guys who did it sadi there were various designs betewwn the Punto and 1.2 Bravas etc but I couldn't follow exactly...

I'll post the Tipo and Brava 1.2 ratios when I get time.

A quick search for MK2 box shows

Drive: front
Gearbox:
1st: 3.909:1
2nd: 2.158:1
3rd: 1.480:1
4th: 1.121:1
5th: 0.897:1
Reverse: 3.818:1
Final Drive: 3.438:1

which confirms that the box only differs in the final drive.

According to the tables above my Mk1 60 should have had a final drive of 3.563. So my current ratios are a bit longer making the car a bit less responsive but with the engine sounding less busy at motorway speeds.

Also on a MK2 which has larger wheels diameters wheels this will make them even less responsive. Unless FIAT upped the torque on the 1.2 engine for the MK2, a MK2 will not feel as nice to drive as the original MK1 gear setup.

blu73 said:

interesting... are you sure the figures you have are for the 90 and not the 85.. Seems weird the 90 would have exactly the same gearing as the 55 & 60 bearing in mind its a different engine and box entirely from the FIRE engined cars, it would make more sense that the 85s had the same box as the 55/60 as they could have just literally used the same box and gear set plus from having driven them (as in 55,60,85) from memory the road speeds are same in each gear just the 85 gets there quicker as it has more power and revs higher.

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I also find its odd that the 90 (well some of the 90's) were such low geared as well, the ones with the *** body codes seem to have longer more reasonable gearing. Thus not having the 85 listed since its a manual for a '94 car. Things may differ on the other engines as well from a later manual.

blu73 said:

Seems weird the 90 would have exactly the same gearing as the 55 & 60 bearing in mind its a different engine and box entirely from the FIRE engined cars

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Nope, the 90 has a FIRE-type box, just different bellhousing. Caught me out!

Really. Now that is surprising indeed. Learnt something today I have lol.

Unique combo AFAIK - I was going to drop it into my Uno - good ratios - but plans change ...

Tipo gearing from my Mk2 owners manual...

N.B. 1.6 SPI did NOT have 90HP!!

Tipo gearing 1.4 ie 1.6 ie
1st 3.909 3.909
2nd 2.238 2.238
3rd 1.469 1.541
4th 1.043 1.156
5th 0.849 0.891
Reverse 3.909 3.909
Final drive 3.937 3.765
Teeth 16/63 17/64

No gearing info in my Brava handbook for comparison.

Regarding the Punto 1.2 Fire gearing on the Mk1 and Mk2... I guess the Mk2 had a lower final drive because it went to taller wheels and tyres.. 165/70 x 14 up from 155/70 x 13.