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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

Quote Originally Posted by digger58 View Post
That stud should come out easy enough, good vice grip if you have room. If not something like this
No exposed threads for vice grips unfortunately, it's with the garage now but looked like an extractor tool/drill out job, hopefully will hear from them later today.

What's that tool in the picture?
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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

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Yeah having a look on ECP at the 2 different water pumps for my reg number, that's got to be the problem. Just by looking at the pictures side by side I can tell that the pulley on the other pump (not the one I have) better matches the teeth on the camshaft pulley.
There's also 24 teeth on my pump, and 20 on the one I need

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Will probably go with the KWP unit rather than Circolli, just as it has bigger/more impeller fins

Thinking of it, I have always had trouble getting the belt to 'grab' the water pump pulley properly....

Will have to order a new timing belt as well, might as well get a new tensioner too. Luckily they've still got the JanSale on!
They are dear enough, Look here...http://www.mister-auto.ie/en/water-p...797_g1260.html
The tool is a stud extractor.
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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

yep mister auto is great, i use them alot. good prices, good service

That said, in this circumstance Shop4Parts are cheaper, just had a look. Cheapest Mister-Auto is on UK site is 34.70 delivered for the pump and belt (bolk and dayco respectively)

S4P is 28.92, same belt but bugatti branded pump which I've used before, very nice quality. Also that price is not including the forum discount - think you have to donate to get access to the forum discount codes but can be any small number, literally anything and you get that donated member under your name like below my avatar. But S4P is 10% off everything.

S4P part numbers I have got are S4P546 for the timing belt and S4P673 for the pump.
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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

righto thanks for the help chaps, I did a click and collect at ECP due to time constraints, and with the JanSale discount it comes to around 56, but since I'll be getting free delivery I'll go with Shop4Parts (gonna get some Tutela ZC75 transmission oil (2x 1L) and timing belt cover since they're cheap!)

https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=s...D=72&sku=25227

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tricky to navigate but great range and prices to be fair

No luck finding a replacement tensioner stud but I've ordered a 45mm long M8 stainless steel stud off eBay which should do the trick

P.S. donated a few quid, have been meaning to for a while anyway! found the discount code easily enough, 47 ish quid in all

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We're making progress!

Box of stuff arrived (at work ) earlier in the week from S4P, packaged so well it could have been dropped out of a helicopter!

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Checking new water pump and belt for fitment
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This hole in the new pump isn't on the other one, puzzled as to what it's for but oh well, hope it's not important!
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So got the cylinder head back from the garage on Wednesday after work, 108 for 1.5 hrs work plus VAT (I always forget the VAT...) so an expensive lesson learnt. Could have done it myself for less than 20 with a drill and some kit of eBay no doubt, but it is what it is!

Got some photos of their work once home, not the tidiest job in the world but the threads are all fine. Cleaned out the hole with brake cleaner and tissue, and a handy little screwdriver with a magnetic tip which pulled out all the swarf/shavings.
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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

Nice tread, nice car and congratulations on the work you have done ! The simplicity , reliability and quality of MK1 puntos is known only to those who have driven and owned them. In my place (MONTENEGRO) there are still examples from 1994 being used as a daily drivers.


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Sorry was too busy to follow on the last update at the time

Old water pump removed (wrong teeth size/shape as you can see compared to the new one)
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Timing belt side of the engine before and after a good clean:
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A big clump of shredded belt 'wool' that came off
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Crankshaft pulley before and after clean:
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New water pump installed (VTech blue RTV sealant used, initially bought for rocker cover)
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New M8 stainless steel stud, washer and nut in the cylinder head holding on the timing belt tensioner
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didn't take many photos after that as the process has been documented on this thread before, however I did stream it via Facebook Live with a view of the engine bay for over an hour just for a laugh, most of my mates don't truly understand the struggle!
(such comments include "not gonna lie dude this is boring af" and "why did I just waste an hour of my life")

finished result, car started eventually after fiddling with the timing a little, took about 5 long seconds to eventually fire up on the last go but got therein the end!
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With team morale at a high after this all went quicker and easier than I thought, moved onto the rear subframe repair bushes

Bolts removed (did a lot of prep on this with Plusgas and a hammer):
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old rubber 'things' that were between the plates of the subframe bushes, plucked out with a screwdriver and clearly not doing anything, and comparison with repair bushes:
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Repair bushes pushed/hammered on top of the existing bushes and bolted down, really easy job in the end!
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Took the Punto for a spin and a well needed car wash, then after letting the engine cool for a few minutes I did and oil and filter change. No photos of that as it's not terribly exciting. The engine's now running nice and smooth, probably the best it's ever been now with the proper water pump, new belts, spark plugs, fresh oil and the valve clearances done recently.
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Will keep an eye out for leaks over the next few weeks (fingers crossed) before putting on the new timing belt cover. Also have the transmission oil to renew when I get a chance

cheers and regards as always
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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

good work, and hats off to your patience with the car. Bit of luck thats the end of the running issues for a good long while now.
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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

Thanks very much, yeah fingers crossed. No doubt reusing the headgasket & cylinder head bolts will come back to bite me but at least i'm a dab had at removing the cylinder head now

Also should add - after installing the rear subframe repair bushes, they have seemed to firm/tighten up the feeling I get from the rear of the car, but could tell as soon as I first headed off down the street that the rear right knocking/banging noise is still present.
Looks like it's got to be the rear radius arm bearings, which is a job I've heard is not the easiest even though the kits are cheap:
e.g. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3107317599...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Although I guess if that didn't work, complete new rear trailing arms aren't that expensive:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3715280805...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Anyway not a particularly urgent issue, going to completely empty the car of tools and other crap (added weight and stuff rattling about) and see if that helps
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Re: my 200 '95 Mk1 75sx 'Paddy Punto'

It's so awesome that a regular guy is giving a beloved old car such great attention and restoring. Every update is interesting to read!
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Much appreciated cheers chaps

Small unrelated problem yesterday while leaving work, brake warning light didn't turn off when I dropped the handbrake to set off. Drove on for a few seconds and it was still on, so popped the bonnet and checked the brake fluid, down very low. Luckily had a bottle in the boot so topped it up, checked around the clutch slave cylinder (that I've had to bleed a few times before) and there is some signs of 'dampness' just under the rubber boot. Will keep an eye on the fluid level, but probably a replacement slave cylinder due soon.
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Another update, few bits & bobs done last weekend

Transmission/gearbox oil/fluid change, was cheap so thought I might as well, and had no proof of when it was last changed (Haynes manual recommends 80k miles, I'm on the brink of 130k!)

8mm hex drain plug round the back, bit of a stretch as the car wasn't jacked up too high (trying to keep it level on the drive)
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Old oil coming out, was a brown/golden colour and didn't look too bad to me, so was probably changed at 80k, new oil is golden yellow.
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Siphon pump I picked up for a few quid (TK Maxx) i thought might be handy, and the Zutela oil
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Oil filling system in place, have to take it quite slow as the oil is thick compared to petrol/water, had one of the hoses pop out when plunging too hard and got a nice sploosh of oil all over the place!
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Just under 2 bottles in and put the plug back in when the oil just about stopped overflowing. Overall not a difficult job, but back on the road there's no noticeable difference, some gears are still a bit stiff to select at times which is a shame but oh well!

New coolant temperature sensor I ordered from ECP during a sale, temp readings on the dash haven't 'settled' as high as they used to since I last put the cylinder head back on (never goes over 1/4 of the dial) so thought this might help.
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I'd rounded off the existing one before when trying to remove it with an adjustable spanner to bring the cylinder head off for repair, not realiseing I could just unplug the connector and leave it in! This time I used a pair of vice grips since I would be replacing it anyway and eventually got it out (was in veryyyyy tight)
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New sensor installed, plugged in and no change to the temperature reading from the old sensor! At least the new one only cost me 6 haha
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Sunday I popped off the drivers side wiper arm to bend it slightly inwards, as the wiper wasn't getting contact with the windscreen in the middle. WHile I was there I popped off the scuttle panel to see what was under it (suspected lost tools/bolts over the years!) and also check if my 75sx had a pollen filter, which it does and looks to be the original as well
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and the gunk I found in the drain holes in the chassis that drips water though the engine bay (black circular pot on each side in the pics above), managed to scrape most of it out so should stop water dripping on exhaust etc when it rains (+5 weight reduction)
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In other news the engine is running terribly at the moment, rough idle most of the time, stuttering and lurching on light throttle and the 'self revving' happens every so often. Saw a long thread on this issue in the Mk2 section but going to swap my Throttle Position Sensor back to the old one I replaced a while ago and see if that helps, also remove the Idle Control Valve and give it a clean. Brake cleaner down the channel didn't help.

The adventure continues!
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Yeah sorry for the lack of updates, busy times with work and holidays etc, but all good at the moment!

First off for a bit of entertainment value, behold my botched fix on the exhaust of my parents Nissan Almera Tino. It had a bad exhaust leak for a couple of weeks that was annoying them and probably neighbours (but I would have killed for an exhaust sound like it ). I couldn't pinpoint it at first a few weeks ago but then they rang me with stories of clanging. Turns our the flange connection to the back box had completely rusted through, and after some late-evening grappling and swearing I managed to get them mated up and somewhat sealed with the help of some jubilee clips and 2 tool hanging brackets

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Before you get the pitchforks out, they're due to pick up a new car (Quashqai) next week, so only needs to hold on til then!

Punto related stuff to follow....
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So up until going on holiday the Punto had been continuing to run poorly - jerking throttle, revving to red line in traffic on its own etc., and I had the old Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) and Idle Control Valve (ICV) that I replaced previously ready to switch back in to see if that would solve the problem.

Back from holiday and with Monday off work I went to reverse the Punto out of the driveway slightly to get cracking, and the Punto yet again had a floppy clutch pedal and wouldn't get in gear. Checked under the bonnet and observed fluid under the Clutch Slave Cylinder, and after the previous times of just bleeding the clutch again I knew it was time to bite the bullet and replace it.

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So looked up ECP with no luck but gave Ricambio a call (based in Carshalton, South London) and after they had a check of their shelves they had 3 in stock so drove the 20 mins down with my dad to pick it up. I've gotta say it's a fantastic little store and an absolute treasure trove of Fiat Parts, new slave cylinder and some brake fluid came to 40 with a couple of free stickers. If you're ever down there take a look, decent online store as well:
http://www.ricambio.co.uk/ (not endorsing them officially )
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Anyway, didn't have my Haynes manual to hand but it was a pretty simple replacement, vice grips and some cardboard on the hydraulic line and then bolt off bolt on. Bit of copper grease on the 'end pin' as well to keep things from seizing.

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Bled the clutch on my own (properly I think), battery tray and all back in and clutch is back to normal
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