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5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

My nephew bought the car at the weekend.

I've looked at some engine oil sites and they all quote 5w40.

For a 2012 reg car I would have thought 5w30 would be better?

Opinions please!
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

Quote Originally Posted by diyspanner View Post
My nephew bought the car at the weekend.

I've looked at some engine oil sites and they all quote 5w40.

For a 2012 reg car I would have thought 5w30 would be better?

Opinions please!
Looked at this myself as my boy has a Punto 1.4 8 valve which is going to get it's oil changed soon. I found the same as you 5w-40 recommended. I did wonder briefly about 5w-30 as my other boy's Astra runs 5w-30 and it's a 2007 plate! However perhaps we should reflect that this FIRE engine (a great engine in my humble opinion!) Traces it's lineage back into the '80's when I first encountered it in the Panda my daughter learned to drive in! 5w-40 was pretty cutting edge stuff in those days!

I decided to go with the 5w-40, it's even recommended in the Haynes manual so who am I? Anyway finally settled on Fuchs Titan GT1 5w-40 for no other reason than that it was recommended by two major independent oil suppliers and the size of the organisation producing it. Oh, and I found it on offer on eBay! Oh, and it comes in a 5litre size, not the "silly" 4 litres that seems to be becoming popular these days.

Hope that helps. Oil choice now a days is very complicated isn't it? But I recon that as long as the oil complies with the manufacturer's spec you are probably not going to do any harm. Personally I also like to buy a brand I have confidence in. For instance I buy Quantum oil from TPS for my VAG vehicles because I know it's actually Fuchs oil in the tin. Used to be Castrol but they very recently changed to Fuchs. Local factor sells "TradeTEC oils which I avoided, in ignorance, until I discovered it's actually made by EXOL lubricants and, for convenience sake, has now become my default when needed in a hurry. Also used Comma many times in the past and never knowingly had a problem.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

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Looked at this myself as my boy has a Punto 1.4 8 valve which is going to get it's oil changed soon. I found the same as you 5w-40 recommended. I did wonder briefly about 5w-30 as my other boy's Astra runs 5w-30 and it's a 2007 plate! However perhaps we should reflect that this FIRE engine (a great engine in my humble opinion!) Traces it's lineage back into the '80's when I first encountered it in the Panda my daughter learned to drive in! 5w-40 was pretty cutting edge stuff in those days! I've been keeping a look out for an '09 or '10 plate Panda Dynamic Eco for my wife because they have the 1.2 Euro4 engine but creep into the 30 road tax bracket. I believe they managed to achieve this, not by altering fueling etc, but by fitting low rolling resistance tyres and low friction oil. Wonder if that was 5w-30? Recommendation seems to be to just run them on 5w-40 though.

I decided to go with the 5w-40, it's even recommended in the Haynes manual so who am I? Anyway finally settled on Fuchs Titan GT1 5w-40 for no other reason than that it was recommended by two major independent oil suppliers and the size of the organisation producing it. Oh, and I found it on offer on eBay! Oh, and it comes in a 5litre size, not the "silly" 4 litres that seems to be becoming popular these days.

Hope that helps. Oil choice now a days is very complicated isn't it? But I recon that as long as the oil complies with the manufacturer's spec you are probably not going to do any harm. Personally I also like to buy a brand I have confidence in. For instance I buy Quantum oil from TPS for my VAG vehicles because I know it's actually Fuchs oil in the tin. Used to be Castrol but they very recently changed to Fuchs. Local factor sells "TradeTEC oils which I avoided, in ignorance, until I discovered it's actually made by EXOL lubricants and, for convenience sake, has now become my default when needed in a hurry. Also used Comma many times in the past and never knowingly had a problem.
PS in addition to the above - and for something to do when the "far better half" is watching "Eastenders" or "How to find out you didn't want to move to Australia or buy a house there anyway". If oil additives and problems caused by lubricants etc etc, is of interest to you then there are a couple of sites which, if you haven't already found them, are well worth a look.

"Oilem", which has a tie up with Powerenhancer another interesting site. Also "Bob is the Oil Guy". I find both have some very interesting stuff for when I can't get outside or wrestle the remote away from my dear wife!

All the best
Jock
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

Thanks Folks!

I'll go with 5w40 for the Punto.

Since being introduced to 10w40 XFE for my old Rover 45TD, I've been an advocate of Millers Oils, their Trident series seems to be excellent.


The only exception is the two Bora TDIs we have which get Quantum III 5w30 (507.00) because that's official VW oil.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

Obviously you have to use the correct spec of oil for your vehicle, but don't get all wound up about "the best oil " or oils that are advertised as liquid gold etc. Changing the oil & filter is far more beneficial to the engine.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

I meant to say changing oil & filter *regularly*
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

An interesting set of oil test videos -

Oil tests!
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Quote Originally Posted by diyspanner View Post
An interesting set of oil test videos -

Oil tests!
Ah! the bench test. This has been long known as debunked mainly due to this sort of thing doesn't happen in an engine. I can't do link but look up.......

don't fall for shady oil testing-LN engineering support.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

Certainly not simulation of the lubrication operations in an engine but all the test samples undergo the same test.

Its interesting to see how the various oil brands cope in what is a basic film type lubrication.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

Aye! but those tests have no bearing on engine function & how oil acts in an internal combustion engine, so in effect useless when choosing engine oil for your vehicle which is the essence of this post.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

You state a valid point Jimboy!

The ideal way to choose engine oil would a website where the oils supplied, O.E. for all production cars, is listed.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

www.castrol.co.uk

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Castrol! a money making company, just like others after a slice of the lucrative market, clever advertising, really just playing with words & stretching reality at best. They actually were taken to court because of their information relating to synthetic technology which was not 100% correct, but non the less got off on a technicality.

As said on many a forum by others, the choice of oil by car owners, some "feel" better by choosing their liquid gold over others. In doing this makes individuals more at ease with their engines.
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

I didn't know that Castrol was a money making company at all....
Where do you get your free oil, the Salvation Army...

(A satisfied Castrol user for almost 45 years....)

And I don't "feel" oil, just follow the specs and facts.
In fact, I switched to Petronas oil in our new Giulietta 1,4 Turbo MultiAir, as Castrol doesn't have the correct specs oil for this particular engine...
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Re: 5w30 for a Punto 199 2012 1.2 51 kW ?

Ah Peter!.... you know exactly what I mean by some feeling better by their chosen oil.. I'm not in the habit of trying to change anyones habit in their choice of oil. As you say following the specs for a vehicle. Regardless of company as long as the spec is right, not the Salvation Army by the way, they don't produce oil if you didn't know

All I'm trying to say is, there are choices out there, but some are trying to exaggerate things. Peter you should know that.. Another wink for you.
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