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you can buy a Polo 80-180HP (and with double clutch gearbox)
Don't go 180! I had a Fabia vRS with this engine and DSG. Nothing but trouble in the 7 months I had it.
But the Fiesta ST seems a good choice and a great drive especially now there is no Abarth Punto in the UK...
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Fiat sell more of an engine range in the Punto in other EU countries though so they haven't axed them, they just aren't offered in the UK market. For example in Germany you can buy the 0.9 TwinAir and 1.4 MultiAir still.
Are you sure ? I agree for the 0.9 TA, but for 1.4 MultiAir (N/A 105 or Turbo 135HP) it is not available anymore everywhere
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Perhaps but I am not speculating what they have or haven't done.

Fiat sell more of an engine range in the Punto in other EU countries though so they haven't axed them, they just aren't offered in the UK market. For example in Germany you can buy the 0.9 TwinAir and 1.4 MultiAir still.

I'm not criticising the engine range but just saying there is a limited and uninspiring choice. Not that there is anything wrong with any of them. It will hardly help sell the cars when competitors have more variety.
Hopefully, they will eventually launch a new Punto that will make people take notice of Fiat again. Currently, it's only a few intelligent people that buy them.
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Don't go 180! I had a Fabia vRS with this engine and DSG. Nothing but trouble in the 7 months I had it.
But the Fiesta ST seems a good choice and a great drive especially now there is no Abarth Punto in the UK...
No Abarth Punto anymore... no where.. sad

Yeah for VAG 1.4 TSI 150-180CV a lot of problems (I know two Seat, one with a under warranty changed engine that eated more oil than petrol and another just a bit better - but more than 2 liters in 5'000km) and a Fabia vRS with a failed gearbox... not fixed under warranty.
But they are on catalog
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No Abarth Punto anymore... no where.. sad

Yeah for VAG 1.4 TSI 150-180CV a lot of problems (I know two Seat, one with a under warranty changed engine that eated more oil than petrol and another just a bit better - but more than 2 liters in 5'000km) and a Fabia vRS with a failed gearbox... not fixed under warranty.
But they are on catalog
It's crazy how they are still marketing and selling these engines despite ongoing problems. They released the revised version of the engine in late 2012 however had continued oil consumption issues with this as well from what I have read.

Mine featured in the bad points list on HonestJohn.co.uk 's review:

Another case of high oil consumption leading to replacement of engine of 8,500 mile 2012/62 Skoda Fabia vRS (was using a litre every 450 miles). Only the engine itself was replaced. Turbocharger, supercharger, spark plugs, airfilter from original engine all re-fitted.

It's a huge gamble owning these outside of warranty.

Sorry to go off topic.
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Not sure how I missed this one

The mini suv version of the punto evo/grande called the Fiat Avventura

Only available in India but right hand drive and only £8300 for the top of the range diesel model

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Seem to remember the standard indian spec looks ready to compete in the safari rally anyway. None of the stick on 4x4 gear but about a 50mm ride height increase.
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When I popped into my local dealer on Saturday for some wiper blades for my GP (which they didn't have in stock BTW), one of the sales people told me there is soon to be a facelift GP coming to the UK but he couldn't tell me anymore than that.


T or F ?????????
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When I popped into my local dealer on Saturday for some wiper blades for my GP (which they didn't have in stock BTW), one of the sales people told me there is soon to be a facelift GP coming to the UK but he couldn't tell me anymore than that.


T or F ?????????

Maybe the one at the top of the page? But the fiat plan is no new punto till after 2016 by then it will probably be some kind of 500abcde model
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Maybe the one at the top of the page? But the fiat plan is no new punto till after 2016 by then it will probably be some kind of 500abcde model
Hopefully, when Fiat do eventually launch a completely new Punto, it'll blow peoples minds, and give ford, Renault and Peugeot the thorough kicking they deserve.
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Maybe the one at the top of the page? But the fiat plan is no new punto till after 2016 by then it will probably be some kind of 500abcde model
Maybe a 500P?
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Maybe a 500P?
is that P short for PLEASE STOP! the 500 redesigning aint working

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They did say the Punto was going to become a 5dr 500 variant, but then since the unveiling of the 500X they've said that's the last member of the 500 family, so who knows.

Personally I think they'd be off their heads to drop the Punto name. It's such a strong brand name and prior to the 500 coming along it was Fiats best selling model for years.

The Punto and 500 appeal to different a different customer base - Fiat need to realise that just a name change to 500 will put off buyers who would've bought a Punto. Since the 500 ranges have quite a female or family bias, I'd think particularly male buyers would be hesitant of any Punto replacement with 500 badge.
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They did say the Punto was going to become a 5dr 500 variant, but then since the unveiling of the 500X they've said that's the last member of the 500 family, so who knows.

Personally I think they'd be off their heads to drop the Punto name. It's such a strong brand name and prior to the 500 coming along it was Fiats best selling model for years.

The Punto and 500 appeal to different a different customer base - Fiat need to realise that just a name change to 500 will put off buyers who would've bought a Punto. Since the 500 ranges have quite a female or family bias, I'd think particularly male buyers would be hesitant of any Punto replacement with 500 badge.
There seem to be subtle improvements between the original Grande Punto and the current 2012+ model I think but they need to keep up with the competition. There is no reason why the Punto couldn't compete with the likes of the Fiesta with the right design, engine range and effective marketing but we all know that!
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There seem to be subtle improvements between the original Grande Punto and the current 2012+ model I think but they need to keep up with the competition. There is no reason why the Punto couldn't compete with the likes of the Fiesta with the right design, engine range and effective marketing but we all know that!
Sadly, we live in a country of dumbass ford buyers. Truth be told, it doesn't matter how fantastic the Punto is, people will still overlook it: according to howmanyleft, despite the fact that it was inferior in every single aspect, the mk6 fiesta outsold the Grande Punto, for example.
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