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Re: Stop & Start doesn't seem to work

Starting after a stall is IMO the best feature of S\S & for me the only reason to keep it on because I often stall lol
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Hmmm...I had an interesting experience with S/S at the weekend and wonder if anyone else has had the same.

Was reversing the car into a space and wasn't really paying attention to the throttle, so the car stalled.

However - the S/S sign started circling and the message telling you to put the clutch down to restart the car appeared. I did that and it restarted the car, as you would expect when S/S is working properly. Great!

When I got home, I deliberately stalled the car twice, and it did the same again when I put the clutch down.

However - S/S hasn't shown any signs of working on the car for the past five months when stopping the car, putting into neutral and releasing clutch (in fact it hasn't worked at all since I last posted on this thread). I put that all down to the lack of mileage/short journeys and the cold weather. And very much doubt the battery has gained any charge in that time either.

So - does this sound like a fault, or is the "stall re-start" function separate to the regular S/S function?

As I said before, I don't really care if it works or not, but it would be nice to know if it is normal behaviour or not!
Had the same with mine, your battery will be too weak.
Mine had to be replaced over winter (failing to start after cold nights), s/s has been working fine since fitting a new battery.
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Re: Stop & Start doesn't seem to work

What is the optimal charge for the battery to allow s/s operation ?
tested mine and its 12.2v at rest
so guess that's no where near close.
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I have a Chrysler (Lancia!) Delta with Stop/Start on the 1.4 MultiAir...... My S/S worked for the first few weeks during a trip away. I stopped to refuel and the system has not worked now for nigh on 8 months. Not especially bothered though as per other posts - if the feature is there it should be working IMO. The Delta handbook does not mention the need to remove a battery to recharge - just to disconnect the voltage sensor from the negative terminal.
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Re: Stop & Start doesn't seem to work

Well, have arranged to take our Punto in next week for a new battery. Going to local Ford service dealer who is going to fit a Varta Start-Stop EFB Car Battery (027EFB) (D53).

Total cost will be £140 including VAT and fitting, so not too bad for a S/S battery. Garage is only 10 minute walk from home as well! Also I chose it as they will be familiar with the S/S system as it features in the KA of course.

Will report on how it goes, hopefully it will start working again!
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Well, have arranged to take our Punto in next week for a new battery. Going to local Ford service dealer who is going to fit a Varta Start-Stop EFB Car Battery (027EFB) (D53).

Total cost will be £140 including VAT and fitting, so not too bad for a S/S battery. Garage is only 10 minute walk from home as well! Also I chose it as they will be familiar with the S/S system as it features in the KA of course.

Will report on how it goes, hopefully it will start working again!
lets hope it does the trick.. - depending on ago of car.. it may be time anyway..,

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Re: Stop & Start doesn't seem to work

Thanks Charlie, yeah fingers crossed!

I think the battery was probably compromised when I bought the car last August. It had only done something like 1800 miles in the 12 months prior to me getting it.

To be fair to the dealer, they had done their best to charge it up, and S/S did work for a couple of months. But I noticed the other night when it fired up that the dashboard lights/DRLs were dimming ever so slightly a few seconds later and then recovering, so I thought best to just get it replaced now before winter arrives.
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Thanks Charlie, yeah fingers crossed!

I think the battery was probably compromised when I bought the car last August. It had only done something like 1800 miles in the 12 months prior to me getting it.

To be fair to the dealer, they had done their best to charge it up, and S/S did work for a couple of months. But I noticed the other night when it fired up that the dashboard lights/DRLs were dimming ever so slightly a few seconds later and then recovering, so I thought best to just get it replaced now before winter arrives.
any news..??
on mine - there were LOTS of stored error messages that needed clearing ( starting engine without engaging drivers seat belt) in the S / S preconditions apparently,
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Hi Charlie,

Sorry, didn't make it clear in my other post. Battery is getting replaced tomorrow, so will hopefully have some good news to report.

Will mention about the various error codes when I take it in, it's another thing to look at I guess.
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Ok then...new battery fitted this morning. Car cranks noticeably faster now, I never felt that it was particularly slow to be honest, but there is quite a difference now. So that's good!

No sign of S/S working as yet, however I note from the 500 section that it can take a while to activate again, or in some cases the IBS needs to be reset?

Anyway, work in progress but will keep everyone informed if and when S/S comes back to life!
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Ok then...new battery fitted this morning. Car cranks noticeably faster now, I never felt that it was particularly slow to be honest, but there is quite a difference now. So that's good!

No sign of S/S working as yet, however I note from the 500 section that it can take a while to activate again, or in some cases the IBS needs to be reset?

Anyway, work in progress but will keep everyone informed if and when S/S comes back to life!
did they bench charge the new battery then leave it 2-3 hours before fitting to let surface voltage dissipate??
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Interesting thread. At work I have access to about 5 Vauxhall Corsas - the oldest being a 12 plate one with 42k on the clock the newest being a 14 plate with 12k on it.

All are 1.3 Cdti with S/S - it works on everyone of them all of the time with no difference on weather or temp of the engine. Considering they are Fiat engines and run on the same platforms as the Fiat it seems more than just battery related.
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did they bench charge the new battery then leave it 2-3 hours before fitting to let surface voltage dissipate??
No idea Andy. I certainly never asked anyway, didn't cross my mind to be honest.

Just to point out though that everything is working perfectly - quicker cranking, no dashboard dimming whatsoever, revs hold steady at all times when idling (they used to dip ever so slightly when depressing the clutch before coming to a complete standstill).

It is literally the S/S element that hasn't worked so far., but there is still time
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Quote Originally Posted by Super Uwe View Post
No idea Andy. I certainly never asked anyway, didn't cross my mind to be honest.

Just to point out though that everything is working perfectly - quicker cranking, no dashboard dimming whatsoever, revs hold steady at all times when idling (they used to dip ever so slightly when depressing the clutch before coming to a complete standstill).

It is literally the S/S element that hasn't worked so far., but there is still time

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-...etail&id=27134

Get one slap it on charge (disconnected from car) once fully charged turn off and leave 2 hours before reconnecting to the car...
(This let's surface charge dissipate )
The car will then learn what a fully charged battery is and switch the ss back on
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No idea Andy. I certainly never asked anyway, didn't cross my mind to be honest.

Just to point out though that everything is working perfectly - quicker cranking, no dashboard dimming whatsoever, revs hold steady at all times when idling (they used to dip ever so slightly when depressing the clutch before coming to a complete standstill).

It is literally the S/S element that hasn't worked so far., but there is still time
any progress..??
I'd still get the fault codes read and cleared.. couldn't believe the difference it made with mine
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