General Is my Punto jinxed or am I just unlucky?

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General Is my Punto jinxed or am I just unlucky?

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Punto 1.2, 8v, 3 door, December 2001. Bought new in Jan 02.
Nov 02, Punto backended while stationary at junction, other driver's fault, fixed on their insurance.
Dec 02, hit an animal, front black bumper cracked, haven't yet replaced.
March 03, parked in town, late at night while parked, a pedestrian bumped into punto putting a dent into front offside wing at the bottom behind the front wheel, haven't yet had dent repaired.
Yesterday, wife parked Punto in car park, when she returned, there was a dent in passenger door about 5cm below lock and about 1cm deep, looked like it had been hit by a hammer but caused by some clumsy oaf, probably in a 4 x 4 opening their door into punto.
I have thought about getting the 2 dents fixed and the bumper replaced, but, I intend to run the Punto into the ground, so far 33k miles since Jan 02. I am of the opinion that if I fix the 3 damaged items, something else will happen sooner or later.
Has anyone else had a similar catalogue of bumps?
 
girlfriend yesterday came back to find her clio with a dent bout two inches in height, same across on the drivers door... of course nobody has left any details and what makes it really unlucky is that today its going to be returned to a dealer for something new... lets hope dentmaster can fix!!!!
 
ok,wana hear my luck story ??! ill tell u neway...
1st car, corsa bought 21st aug 03. 24th aug backended, nearly 3k worth damage-not our fault. insurance job-just found out other party aint admitting liability n its lookin t go to court. anyways, got bodywork done all fine, broke down on way home from garage. new air filter needed, gearbox needed sortin out. all fine n dandy. 7wk 4days after bought, swerved to avoid a duck, lost control of car n wrecked it. ok, so thats one car outta the way after only drivin it for about 3 week in total!
bought the punto oct/nov ish. reversed into lampost. lot of wing damage, but that got sorted sharpish.
then drunk driver tried t do 3point turn n scratched bumper. they got busted,i got scratched. whilst t-cuttin that, noticed dent where someones opened their nice red door on it.
last week, got broken into but luckily they got disturbed n ran away not nickin owt (cowards).
now the temp gauge is playin silly buggers and its jumpin like a kangaroo !
not very lucky huh?
oh and since aug 03, bumped the rent's car into a stupid towin thing on a landy (ok,so it was my fault) and scratched one of the coutesy cars (again, oops !)
hope that makes u feel better ! and ive only bin drivin since december 02....
 
Maybe you need some more lessons if you keep making mistakes like that?

Just out of curiosity, did insurance pay out after you avoided the duck? They don't need to and wondered if they had played up about it?



My first signiture (a lot of thought put into it): If you can't find the switch to switch your fogs off I am sure I can help you! Damn fogs.
 
The thing is with a duck, it won't cause a danger to you or your car. You could just run over it and it wouldn't matter; hence by swerving you caused a danger and you didn't need to. There was a big test case on it in Germany and it was decided that anything above the size of a medium to large dog is ok to avoid, anything small isn't. If you check your premium this is the same in this country now so you were lucky.

In terms of suggesting more lessons it isn't a personal or rude attack, don't take it to heart, plenty of people need more after their driving test to keep up a good standard, especially is lessons were mainly with parents etc.

In terms of evidence of why you should tkae lessons, in 14 months you have: (ignoring items not your fault obviously)

Lost control of your car and written it off
Reversed into a lampost
Driven into a 4x4's towbar at the rearend I assume
Scratched a curtosey car

James is right, I bet you're paying massive, massive amounts for your insurance now, or at least in the next premium all of this shows up against.

Please don't take it personally when I say that the above shouldn't have happened in 14 months and you could think about having extra lessons, get it put down as passplus or something and save a little on your insurance.

There are too many ducks anyway ;)

My first signiture (a lot of thought put into it): If you can't find the switch to switch your fogs off I am sure I can help you! Damn fogs.
 
Originally posted by pghstochaj
The thing is with a duck, it won't cause a danger to you or your car. You could just run over it and it wouldn't matter

Bet you wouldn't say that if you were a duck!B)

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LOL, i would say it "quack, quack, qauccccccy" or something but I doubt the local MDP (member of duck parliment) would take any notice; those damn useless MDP's.

I am just relaying what the law states, well maybe not the law, could be just insurance terms and conditions (probably!). Your responsibility as a car driver is to prevent harm to you, your passengers and all other road/pavement users. In a world where people come before small animals, you can't do too much.

My first signiture (a lot of thought put into it): If you can't find the switch to switch your fogs off I am sure I can help you! Damn fogs.
 
s'ok no offence taken bout the extra lessons...i admit i used to drive like a bit of a prat as far as lookin after my car went (i never endangered anyone else's well-being tho!) and i probably wouldnt have swerved to avoid the duck if either a) another car was about, or b) i knew the car was goin to start skiddin...but yeh, im not lookin forward to this premium thats gona get me soon !![xx(]
 
I think that alot of the problems are caused throyugh lack of experience too. Look at me, had an escort for my first car, misjudged coming onto my driveway and scraped my car down the gatepost had a dent three foot long and about a cm deep! god knows how i didnt realise till i'd parked. week later i set off one day to go to alton towers, turned a corner i go round everyday but there was black ice, lost control smashed into a taxi and wrote it off! ooo my insurance will be fun this year!

now i got a pretty little red punto and im lookin after her, but u learn from ure mistakes...well...some people do!

My mum says im cool...even if my friends dont...
 
Ouch some nasty things coming to light here! RE the duck it's true that you should probably just drive over it rather than risk yourself and your car. HOWEVER it's unlikely you will think of that if a duck jumps out in front of you - I reckon you'll just act on the spur of the moment, which for most people will be to automatically swerve.

Touch wood I've not had any incidents at all I've only been drivng just over a year though so plenty of time yet. I would just like to say though that I don't think learning largely with your parents is a bad thing - I only had 12 lessons with an instructor and I'm doing OK!

"The new rules are very simple, the FIA will keep them to themselves until such a time as Ferrari needs them" Patrick Head
 
For me, I have had VERY odd driving experiences. From the age of about 9 I used to always drive my Grandfathers car in and out of his garage. A massive 2.5TD Granada, all you did was be soft off the clutch and then it moved, no accelerator at all needed it had so much torque!

From about 12, he bought me a Fiat Uno, oddly enough, a G-reg, 999fire, 4 gears, 45, very basic but had a radio. It was crash damaged and written off, basically it meant it had no bumper and a little bit of damage to the front metal bit where the bumper should have gone on. A little bit of rope later and it looked like new (well, soft of!). From 12 until about 16 I learnt to drive in my grandpa's huge garden. I learnt near perfect clutch control, how to handle a car in a small area, grass driving etc. It meant I had to learn perfect car handling, it wasn't a massive garden, just fairly long and thin. It meant I could learn lots about how a car runs, what happens if you pull away in 4th, what would happen if you tried a handbrake turn etc. I had a lot of fun and covered about 1 mile in the whole time! Most of the time I would drive to one end and then reverse all the way back so not miles on the clock.

I also learnt how a car can handle when used incorrectly, how going in reverse at 20 mph, in heavy rain on mud with a space of about 50cm either side of a hedge row and a pear tree ends in a smash. Was quite fun that, going to fast, tried to slow, slid, smack, sideways on into the tree! I also learnt that you have to concentrate a lot more than I imagined. I reversed straight into his poor shed at the top, I didn't mention it but next week "You hit the shed didn't you?!"

All of this meant I could drive a car off-road so well - at a time when my friends were playing bumper cars. It was amazing experience!

When it came to driving lessons, I got a great guy, a nice car and very cheap. First lesson I drove for 45 minutes out of an hour. I did need another 11 lessons, why? Driving in a garden is so different to driving on a road! Driving on a road has other road users, has other dangers and you have to follow the road, not the route you make up driving up the garden!

My friends all needed about 25+ lessons, I did it in 12, the Uno cost £50 and when we scrapped it, we got £30 for it. I only had those lessons and no teaching from parents - both owned large cars. What I am trying to say is, I wish everyone had the oppotunity I had. IMO, it means I understand a car better than most people driving my age, understanding the workings of a car is very important.

One example of this is when it rained once and 4 people had parked on the grass at school because the car park was so full. The three girls and one guy basically sat there in first gear, flooring it trying to get out of the grass. Of course they eventually did it but the grass was in such an awful condition afterwards. 2 of them had to get a teacher to drive it out! The fix, stick it in 2nd or even 3rd and be very slow off the clutch, be gentle and voila, barely any wheel slip.

I don't want to say I am a better driver than anyone here, and being 18 and only have driven for less than a year I know I am not. Road experience is so important. However, touch wood, as of yet I haven't had anything too close and unlike most early on, I haven't touched the paintwork, clipped anything at all.

Would I run over the duck? In my second driving lesson I did an emergency stop to prevent running over one from 40mph - it came from nowhere. My instructor congratulated me, he hadn't even taught me an emergency stop, but did however warn me of the insurance complications of doing that again.

I personally wish I had could have driven with my parents, I could have used less lessons but I looked forward to them so much I am not sure if I would have missed out!

IMO, learning with your parents is fine aslong as you have proper training to back it up.

Paul



My first signiture (a lot of thought put into it): If you can't find the switch to switch your fogs off I am sure I can help you! Damn fogs.
 
Hi,

The thing is, there is a criminal law about cruelty to animals. I would have thought that running over a duck would be considered cruel (for the duck that is), especially if you didn't kill it outright.

So, the insurance company can't ask you to commit a criminal offence just to save the car, so I doubt they could refuse to pay up in those circumstances, especially as the terms of insurance normally state you have to comply with relevant laws.

However I would not like to test it and I doubt many ducks would volunteer for the test case.

Andy
 
I hate getting taken to court by small animals; nothing better to ruin a nice day.

My first signiture (a lot of thought put into it): If you can't find the switch to switch your fogs off I am sure I can help you! Damn fogs.
 
I have the problem with small gangs of pigeons harrasing me when i go out to my car ever since i ran one over, i may have to get a restraining order!

My mum says im cool...even if my friends dont...
 
You ever tried to get one on a flock of pigeons, damn hard. The police just don't want to know.

My first signiture (a lot of thought put into it): If you can't find the switch to switch your fogs off I am sure I can help you! Damn fogs.
 
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